• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    AI as a whole is very much on the level of usefulness of an engine or the Internet.

    Right so that’s what I’m kind of challenging here. What can machine learning do today that we couldn’t do without it.

    I fully understand how you could have weather prediction models that might outperform traditional algorithms, but it would need waaay more power and the gain is a small increment instead of a difference of magnitude.

    Remember those pictures in PC magazines from the 90s that showed how much data can be stored in a single CD vs paper? What’s the ML equivalent of that?

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      I’ll just focus down on one example, but I’ve seen this amount of success with non llm AI elsewhere. Protein folding. I’m not directly in the space but my understanding from friends who are researchers is this has solved massive problems for them. Cutting years of time down to potentially days (it’s still in early adoption so not fully proven. But I trust their judgement).

      Alphafold uses an attention network to determine potential fold patterns and fairly well. This let’s them cut research time and materials as they can very quickly actually predict likely outcomes without having to directly test things in an experimental environment. (Where they go from there I get lost, I’ve helped friends write script to sort data so my knowledge of this area ends at the computer phase)

      Yes you can argue we technically could do it manually before AI, but ultimately you could say that about most any tool. The cotton gin didn’t do anything we couldn’t do before, but it sure changed things with it’s speed and utility.

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        That’s great to hear.

        But genome and protein sequencing has been getting easier for the last few decades for a number of reasons. While it sounds like ML is contributing positively, idk if I would call this revolutionary.

        Is there anything new the average person has access to today that they didn’t have before?

        IMO revolutions are like: I have a computer in my pocket that has thousands of times more power than the best ones a few decades ago.

        While I would love to see a revolution in medical science, I have yet to see it (maybe I’m just uninformed). We are getting close to designer babies but I would argue that’s more like social media than the internet in terms of benefits to society.

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          I think your definition of revolutionary tech and mine are just fundamentally different here so I don’t think I can point you at what you want.

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            That’s fair.

            I fully agree that ML can help in niche ways but yeah I would just say we have another tool in the toolbox not that we are dead set on huge changes in the coming years.