• deathbird@mander.xyz
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    8 days ago

    I was a lot more cool will “beat down nazis” when I thought everyone knew “nazi” meant “fans of Adolf Hitler, the Third Reich, and their racist political philosophy and policy programs”, but I feel like I see way too many people using them term as a generic insult or a label for “anyone to the right of Stalin”.

    And I’m frustrated by that because I’m in the USA and the government is out of control. Oh and baseball bats won’t solve it.

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          7 days ago

          Language is not prescriptivist, it evolves and changes and so do the definitions and contexts of words based on how they are used. Your whole point is outdated and detached from the concept of how language works and is applied.

          Nazi cunts can fuck off.

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            6 days ago

            Actually my point is firmly anchored to the reality of linguistic descriptivism. Insofar as I’ve seen a wide range of ideologies and people with diverse views called nazis (by equally diverse people), whose views don’t mesh with my prior understanding of the term as I mentioned above, I actually hesitate to nod along with generic calls to beat up nazis.

            Like to put it less plainly, neo-Nazis are nazis, skinheads are nazis, advocates for White Nationalism are nazis, KKK are nazis, but who else does the speaker mean? Like I literally don’t know.

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                    5 days ago

                    My critique is of people who lob calls for violence without clarity about their targets. Striving for clarity can be annoying, but I think it’s important when discussing the deployment of violence.

                    Again, not defending Nazis, actual (my definitions from above) or made up (your heretofore unwritten definition, which I assume is dumb).

                    Just because I think you’re an idiot doesn’t mean I like people you don’t.

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      7 days ago

      So… You mean they have to be German too? I mean they are dressed up, armed and parading US cities already!

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        7 days ago

        Since you seem to think I’m being overly pedantic in my description of nazis, I think you might be one of the people I’m talking about.

        I do agree that America has a problem with fascists out in the streets. Maybe if you and your local softball team had been better organized before this wouldn’t have happened. Or maybe the efficacy of bats doesn’t extend much beyond the edges of your local punk bar. And anyway it’s not like it’s just screwdriver fans I’m worried about these days.