Sometimes, but more often bad writing can make a great actress look like a bad female actor.
Natalie Portman can act, but those prequels were rough on her reputation. The camp value od the prequels wasn’t immediately apparent and it was rough on her.
I remember someone saying that they thought Ewan McGregor and Liam Neesan were great, and the response was ‘yeah, in Trainspotting and Schindlers list.’
Some people just hate women and they suck, but often the something with a female lead just sucks. It sucks that the former complicates the latter.
I’ll note that the exact same thing happened to Hayden Christensen. His reputation took a big hit for being the guy who portrayed Anakin Skywalker. He was in the same boat Natalie Portman was and weathered the same storm. The older actors were able to weather it better because they’d had successful projects prior, the younger actors didn’t have that.
Here’s the problem with the Strong Female Character®: They are never found in movies made out of genuine creative vision. A Strong Female Character® is always the lead character in a movie whose production has been authorized for the purposes of monetizing an intellectual property the studio has rights to that polling data shows would be popular among the 18-24 demographic within the next 16 months, and the writers and casting directors are hereby ordered to pander to the attached list of races, genders and sexual orientations as per the company Never Offend Anyone Ever policy.
Movies that were made to bring a cool idea to life tend to have better characters in them, because their characteristics are story telling devices and not business decisions. Stunt casting is ALWAYS a business decision.
Wasn’t the woman from the Twilight movies accused of being a terrible actress and it nearly ruined her career, until she started getting other roles and her reputation turned right around. She even commented on it saying “Yeaaaah… Bella was a garbage nothing of a character. I did everything they asked of me, she’s just that terrible.”
All modern societies were built on the understanding that women are inherently inferior to men.
Once you understand that, so much begins to make sense.
Male domestic abuse victims are laughed at because to our patriarchy, a woman is not a person but a thing to be conquered. If a man is abused by a woman, it means he failed to “conquer her” and should be mocked for his inability.
Feminism is not the solution to this problem for it is an inherently misandrist and transphobic principle. Feminism is predicated on the idea that men are not people, but predators, vicious animals who prey on women. It teaches that the man must be tamed and kept away from women at all costs for her safety.
This is why feminists hate transpeople for it sees transwomen as not fellow sisters, but the male predator using mimicry to blend in with its prey.
Only true egalitarianism will work, and that is a society that lifts women out of oppression without demonizing men. A system that allows transpeople to be who we say we are.
I just got banned from r/menslib a leftist sub about mens issues. While I feel you do paint to broad of a picture of feminism as there are many who support trans and take mens issues seriously cannot disagree with you on how the way we talk about gender being absolutely toxic and damaging to its own cause. It treats all other liberal mens subs like the enemy and feminist subs that absolutely hate it as allies.
And when you, as a man, try to explain what pushes boys away from the left they just shrug and say patriarchy/entitlement/capitalism instead of really talking it. And when they acutaly do talk about stuff like male abuse victims its often about how it makes men more dangerous.
I swear that sub would support Noam over Mamdani
Lemmy could probably do it better. But I not the person to do it.
We will not win men back to the left until we admit that young men are guilty until proven innocent… but young men will be assumed guilty until proven innocent as long as women feel unsafe around them…
So both problems need to be solved at once.
I am not heartless or believe that women don’t have reason to fear men.
I mean men think that being friend zoned is a tragedy? How must that poor woman feel thinking that she had just made a valued friend and all along he only saw her as a hole.
We cannot get Egalitarianism until we solve the problem of men and women not feeling safe around one another. And I don’t know how to fix that.
Men are scared they’ll be labeled monsters if a social interaction goes badly women are scared that they are being seen as a living fucktoy with no other purpose but to be fucked… and it’s hard to convince either group they’re wrong because neither one is.
And the worst part is as a trans woman. I have the worst of both worlds, am I going to be seen as a fuck, a felon, a freak, or a friend? Because I legit cannot tell how another person sees me.
I remember Patty Jenkins when Wonder Woman was due to come out saying that the problem with being a female director is That if a man makes a big budget film and it flops then that’s because the film is bad. But if you make a big budget film and it flops then that’s because women can’t direct.
I dunno. The amount of (deserved) flak the likes of Kevin Feige, JJ Abrahams, and Alex Kurtzman are getting for ruining the ships they’re running kinda disproves that.
That’s bullshit. People generally do blame the director when a movie is shit regardless of whether it’s a man or a woman. Does anyone ever say “TLJ sucks, but it’s not Rian Johnson’s fault, it’s a bad movie for mysterious reason, but it’s not Rian Johnson’s fault because he’s a man”?
Patty Jenkins did a pretty good job on the first Wonder Woman which she directed, but didn’t write. Wonder Woman 1984 which she both wrote and directed was a complete turd. After that debacle, LucasFilm wanted to bring on some other writers to help her with the Star Wars movie they were going to spend hundreds of millions on, seems pretty reasonable. She dropped out instead of accepting help in an areas she’s weak.
Seems to me Patty Jenkins just sucks as a writer. But she’s unable to admit that and instead wants to blame everyone else. There’s an audience for the narrative that the man is preventing women from succeeding. Even when the CEO of LucasFilm was a woman, it’s somehow still a man holding her down. But this is coming from the person that wrote and directed Wonder Woman 1984 so I’m going with someone that sucks at a thing blaming everyone else instead of admitting they aren’t good at a thing. And it’s too bad, she could have a lot of success if she was partnered with good writers, but she insists she doesn’t need that.
Sometimes, but more often bad writing can make a great actress look like a bad female actor.
Natalie Portman can act, but those prequels were rough on her reputation. The camp value od the prequels wasn’t immediately apparent and it was rough on her.
I remember someone saying that they thought Ewan McGregor and Liam Neesan were great, and the response was ‘yeah, in Trainspotting and Schindlers list.’
Some people just hate women and they suck, but often the something with a female lead just sucks. It sucks that the former complicates the latter.
I’ll note that the exact same thing happened to Hayden Christensen. His reputation took a big hit for being the guy who portrayed Anakin Skywalker. He was in the same boat Natalie Portman was and weathered the same storm. The older actors were able to weather it better because they’d had successful projects prior, the younger actors didn’t have that.
Here’s the problem with the Strong Female Character®: They are never found in movies made out of genuine creative vision. A Strong Female Character® is always the lead character in a movie whose production has been authorized for the purposes of monetizing an intellectual property the studio has rights to that polling data shows would be popular among the 18-24 demographic within the next 16 months, and the writers and casting directors are hereby ordered to pander to the attached list of races, genders and sexual orientations as per the company Never Offend Anyone Ever policy.
Movies that were made to bring a cool idea to life tend to have better characters in them, because their characteristics are story telling devices and not business decisions. Stunt casting is ALWAYS a business decision.
Wasn’t the woman from the Twilight movies accused of being a terrible actress and it nearly ruined her career, until she started getting other roles and her reputation turned right around. She even commented on it saying “Yeaaaah… Bella was a garbage nothing of a character. I did everything they asked of me, she’s just that terrible.”
Kristen Stewart I think her name was?
Both the leads had that problem.
True but it was a bigger problem for her because when a woman is seen as doing something wrong, it is seen as ten times as bad as what a man does.
Unless it’s a sex crime, in which case she’s largely ignored…
Or abuse
All modern societies were built on the understanding that women are inherently inferior to men.
Once you understand that, so much begins to make sense.
Male domestic abuse victims are laughed at because to our patriarchy, a woman is not a person but a thing to be conquered. If a man is abused by a woman, it means he failed to “conquer her” and should be mocked for his inability.
Feminism is not the solution to this problem for it is an inherently misandrist and transphobic principle. Feminism is predicated on the idea that men are not people, but predators, vicious animals who prey on women. It teaches that the man must be tamed and kept away from women at all costs for her safety.
This is why feminists hate transpeople for it sees transwomen as not fellow sisters, but the male predator using mimicry to blend in with its prey.
Only true egalitarianism will work, and that is a society that lifts women out of oppression without demonizing men. A system that allows transpeople to be who we say we are.
I just got banned from r/menslib a leftist sub about mens issues. While I feel you do paint to broad of a picture of feminism as there are many who support trans and take mens issues seriously cannot disagree with you on how the way we talk about gender being absolutely toxic and damaging to its own cause. It treats all other liberal mens subs like the enemy and feminist subs that absolutely hate it as allies.
And when you, as a man, try to explain what pushes boys away from the left they just shrug and say patriarchy/entitlement/capitalism instead of really talking it. And when they acutaly do talk about stuff like male abuse victims its often about how it makes men more dangerous.
I swear that sub would support Noam over Mamdani
Lemmy could probably do it better. But I not the person to do it.
We will not win men back to the left until we admit that young men are guilty until proven innocent… but young men will be assumed guilty until proven innocent as long as women feel unsafe around them…
So both problems need to be solved at once.
I am not heartless or believe that women don’t have reason to fear men.
I mean men think that being friend zoned is a tragedy? How must that poor woman feel thinking that she had just made a valued friend and all along he only saw her as a hole.
We cannot get Egalitarianism until we solve the problem of men and women not feeling safe around one another. And I don’t know how to fix that.
Men are scared they’ll be labeled monsters if a social interaction goes badly women are scared that they are being seen as a living fucktoy with no other purpose but to be fucked… and it’s hard to convince either group they’re wrong because neither one is.
And the worst part is as a trans woman. I have the worst of both worlds, am I going to be seen as a fuck, a felon, a freak, or a friend? Because I legit cannot tell how another person sees me.
I remember Patty Jenkins when Wonder Woman was due to come out saying that the problem with being a female director is That if a man makes a big budget film and it flops then that’s because the film is bad. But if you make a big budget film and it flops then that’s because women can’t direct.
I dunno. The amount of (deserved) flak the likes of Kevin Feige, JJ Abrahams, and Alex Kurtzman are getting for ruining the ships they’re running kinda disproves that.
That’s bullshit. People generally do blame the director when a movie is shit regardless of whether it’s a man or a woman. Does anyone ever say “TLJ sucks, but it’s not Rian Johnson’s fault, it’s a bad movie for mysterious reason, but it’s not Rian Johnson’s fault because he’s a man”?
Patty Jenkins did a pretty good job on the first Wonder Woman which she directed, but didn’t write. Wonder Woman 1984 which she both wrote and directed was a complete turd. After that debacle, LucasFilm wanted to bring on some other writers to help her with the Star Wars movie they were going to spend hundreds of millions on, seems pretty reasonable. She dropped out instead of accepting help in an areas she’s weak.
Seems to me Patty Jenkins just sucks as a writer. But she’s unable to admit that and instead wants to blame everyone else. There’s an audience for the narrative that the man is preventing women from succeeding. Even when the CEO of LucasFilm was a woman, it’s somehow still a man holding her down. But this is coming from the person that wrote and directed Wonder Woman 1984 so I’m going with someone that sucks at a thing blaming everyone else instead of admitting they aren’t good at a thing. And it’s too bad, she could have a lot of success if she was partnered with good writers, but she insists she doesn’t need that.