Unwittingly had ‘sex’ with a child, realised it was a child, had ‘sex’ a second time.

And wrote a song about it. And then wrote it into his autobiography.

How this man apparently skated through the #MeToo movement unscathed is truly baffling.

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          How would you measure this? Set up an Gynoid that looks like a teenage girl and records all interaction with men?

          If you have no data, and cannot measure it, what else is there but the lived experience of many people.

          And even if you had data to prove it’s a small minority of men being creeps towards teenage girls, isn’t it still relevant how that is perceived by said teenagers as they grow up?

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            One thing you could take as a data point is what searches are most common on Pornhub.

            Neither ‘barely legal’ nor anything adjacent to it even made the top search list in 2024. On the other hand, there are several entries in that list that imply older women (e.g. milf, step mom, teacher).

            As an aside, I was also intrigued to see that “wife” made the list.

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            So we’ve gone from “most” to “many” to “it doesn’t actually matter how many”.

            Still need me to explain why your vibes reporting on this isn’t very compelling?

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              I don’t have the time or resources to make a survey with a representative sample size of how many women have been inappropriately approached by adult men.

              I can tell you that all women I know closely enough to talk about things like that have had issues with being sexually propositioned against their will by older men from their early teens on. That is, of course, anecdotal.

              This is also something regularly discussed in culture. If you’re saying that we need more data, I am with you. If you’re saying you don’t want to consider the topic because we don’t have enough data yet, that feels disingenuous.

              Do I need to explain to you why dismissing people being victimised out of hand because they can’t give you exact enough numbers for your taste isn’t very compelling?

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                how many women have been inappropriately approached by adult men.

                This isn’t actually a useful metric for drawing any conclusions about men, objectively speaking.

                The typical woman has met thousands upon thousands of men in her life; if she was inappropriately approached by as few as a single one of them, on a single occasion, she now falls in the ‘women that have been inappropriately approached by adult men’ category. It’s very easily possible for the percentage of such women to be as high as literally 100%, while simultaneously, the percentage of men making those inappropriate approaches is far, far below 1%.

                Also, it merits mentioning that the number of victims should not be assumed to equal the number of perpetrators. The kind of man to do this sort of thing is certain to be several different women’s ‘man who inappropriately approached me’. This also widens the gap between the actual percentage of men doing this, and what may be assumed based on individual personal experiences.