• Rothe@piefed.social
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    12 hours ago

    It seems so bizarre to me that Americans feel obligated to sit down and share a meal with literal nazis.

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    Honestly, I’d just focus this year on (1) the areas we agree; Israel and Epstein are really areas most of MAGA is actually aligned with the left on. And (2) using it as an opportunity to explain what blowback is. The shooting in DC recently hasn’t been given enough media time to form the narrative of an “immigrant” problem. The shooter was a direct result of American Imperialism, child soldier recruiting by our government, and resulted in an all too familiar PTSD sourced act of violence.

    Seriously, the most “American” thing that can be taken from this is how we can fuck up a young kid by making them do violence for the empire and then abandon them when they are no longer useful.

    The irony is that that this guy went postal because of how much his life experience was similar to that of the average Army Joe in the military. And the right wing media is trying to portray it as some immigrant problem. The CIA connection is just too obvious, imo, for even MAGA to not see that this is not true. They just need someone to explain blowback to them. That’s your job.

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    I made a decision about how to approach this situation. I’m not going to uninvite people and I’m not going to keep my opinions to myself if the topic comes up. But I’m also not going to proactively bring it up.

    If politics does come up, then I will mostly ignore them until they inevitably say something super dumb and provably false, or completely immoral, at which point I will say something. I will call them on it, confronting them with things that are extremely difficult to argue against, and I won’t let them change the subject unless they concede or shut up. If they concede or stop responding, then I’ll change the topic to something non-political.

    I will not talk about various political subjects, nor will I let them move the goalposts. I will simply argue the dumbest thing they said when they thought it was safe to say something dumb. I will not try to convince them, but I will use the truth to embarrass the shit out of them until they decide it’s just easier to make a truce and agree to keep quiet.

    The point is just to take them out of their comfort zone so that they think before they speak for once. I ignore them unless I know I can win. I’m fairly lucky that I only have one MAGA relative who won’t listen to any reason. The rest of them, most of their problem is that they never hear an opposing view, and never thought about what they’re saying. As long as I stick to one point and don’t reject their entire belief system, I can win small battles.

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    20 hours ago

    I haven’t had contact with my family for a while and I’m so much better for it.This Thanksgiving we slept in half the day, played music, napped some more and read.

    Someone still protests occasionally regarding how I cut my family off, but she’s still too soft on conservatives. You have to understand that nothing you say will change their minds in most cases. If you could have changed them or made them see reason then you would have done so a long time ago. Yes they are misguided, yes the system is at fault for the creation of this cult, but there isn’t anything you can do either. Put your own mental health first.

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    …The R.S.V.P. will only be accepted with e box checked human. The other choices are countries, sexual orientations, foot sizes, eye color, e.g. Any answer other than human may come, but has to sit at the kiddie table…/s?

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      …the person who downvoted this does not look at other people as humans…

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    Yes not talking with others that think differently is definitely the best way to deal with a fellow human. Absolutely ridiculous

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      I cut off all of my conservative Christian family years ago. Best decision I ever made.

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        Ignore them, looks like a conservative propaganda account.

        @mods are any of the posts in this instance actually balanced or is it all just left leaning like reddit.

        1 day old account, two words bunch of numbers name, claims that the cesspit that is Reddit is “left-leaning.” The bot farm is starting up here, it seems.

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          I have many family members that aren’t hateful bigots and we had a wonderful time. No yelling, no snide comments, just happiness.

          Dis family cut you off or something? You seem angry at the fact that people are happy doing this.

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          I agree, I’d much rather be at peace and by myself, as opposed to being in a toxic environment with others.

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            It’s wild to me people are afraid of toxic environments…grow up and be a freaking adult.

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              Life is too short to be around that kind of hatred and anger. I’d rather spend my time with people who love and support each other.

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      24 hours ago

      Do you really think it’s that they “think differently” and not what they are thinking?

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        21 hours ago

        What are the most vile traits and do you have evidence of that happening? Not news articles, not opinion pieces, not blogs …facts. You can’t produce them.