What is the meaning of popular? All of the universe? All of the earth? All of the english speaking world? All of the west? All white people? All of the United States? All of North America? All of the Americas? All of Europe? All of Idaho? Your personal, arbitrary definition of ‘popular’ is unnecessary for this discussion.
The word “woke” was popularly used to mean aware of social and racial injustice. Of the people who were aware of the term, those people understood it in that manner.
Is “rizz” popular? It’s popular here in the US and americentric propaganda makes us believe therefore it’s popular in the world. Is it popular in indonesia? Mainland china? Popular in the Visayas in the Philippines? No it’s not. It’s not a popular word in your pedantic ass meaning, but it’s still popularly used to mean charismatic you barely english-speaking imbecile. It is a popular word in how we’re talking about popularity.
You can’t say “it’s not popular in the way I deem popular and only i care about popularity” and say “I’m contributing to the conversation at hand that has zero to do about popularity of a word”
I’m more than happy distracting you from talking to other people in this thread, you aren’t contributing
Yes, because you are the only saying it and contextualizing that way, getting upset, and hurling insults, all because I’m pointing out they brought it into popular culture. Yes, it was a slang term within certain movements, how is that “contributing to the conversation at hand” when my comment was about how popular it is now?
Hitler also brought the toothbrush mustache and the Hinduism swatiska symbol for well-being and good luck. They both had plenty of benign usage before Hitler added to its infamy.
Maybe you are so upset because you think the same is going to happen to the term “woke”, but I would argue that any negative intent is added to such a flimsy facade that it’s not really going to matter, people are just going to be ok with it. It’s easy for something to shed the negative connotations when the MAGA are outing themselves at their true intent of the words.
I’m more than happy distracting you from talking to other people in this thread, you aren’t contributing
Your insecurities are making you act abusively, and now you seem to be acknowledging your trolling and using it as a justification for this sort of behavior. You don’t care about contributing to the conversation, nor do you care about following the community’s rules. Sir, this is a Wendy’ssubthread about the rise of popularity of something in a Comic Strips community.
What counts as popular is extremely relativistic, subjective and context dependant, but I think being pretty common knowledge amongst a majority of a major minority in this country for decades should count here. Before this racism popped off it was indeed a semi common word in everyday vernacular. “Stay woke” *dap*, could be a greeting, goodbye, etc. Subtle meaning and feeling of comradery and shared understanding of cultural history in a simple and sleek package. This would be a semi common occurrence in many metropolitan areas in the US. Like not 50% or even 5% of all greetings, but certainly understood by most who to whom it applies.
You are right in one sense, what counts as popular is extremely relativistic, subjective and context-dependent. That’s the entire point of my observation. The context was popular culture, and they are the ones who brought it there.
The hard disagree is on how popular it was before, which you wouldn’t have to rationalize with the “a majority of a major minority” word juggling definition. Outside of those bubbles, significant as the slang may have been within them, it was not popular, and it shouldn’t be hard to see why: one was slang limited to use within certain social groups, and the other arose from attempting to mock anything they couldn’t openly do so under prejudice which essentially forced it onto popular use and awareness onto the rest of society.
Not sure why people get so vent out of shape about recognition what is and what isn’t popular in popular culture, as if that were somehow some sort of personal or moral value judgement.
I don’t think you get the meaning of popular.
What is the meaning of popular? All of the universe? All of the earth? All of the english speaking world? All of the west? All white people? All of the United States? All of North America? All of the Americas? All of Europe? All of Idaho? Your personal, arbitrary definition of ‘popular’ is unnecessary for this discussion.
The word “woke” was popularly used to mean aware of social and racial injustice. Of the people who were aware of the term, those people understood it in that manner.
Is “rizz” popular? It’s popular here in the US and americentric propaganda makes us believe therefore it’s popular in the world. Is it popular in indonesia? Mainland china? Popular in the Visayas in the Philippines? No it’s not. It’s not a popular word in your pedantic ass meaning, but it’s still popularly used to mean charismatic you barely english-speaking imbecile. It is a popular word in how we’re talking about popularity.
Yes, when you create an environment about no clear definition about something, you can gaslight about it all you want.
You brought up its popularity, you gaslighting fuck.
Within the context of popular culture, yes.
You can’t say “it’s not popular in the way I deem popular and only i care about popularity” and say “I’m contributing to the conversation at hand that has zero to do about popularity of a word”
I’m more than happy distracting you from talking to other people in this thread, you aren’t contributing
Yes, because you are the only saying it and contextualizing that way, getting upset, and hurling insults, all because I’m pointing out they brought it into popular culture. Yes, it was a slang term within certain movements, how is that “contributing to the conversation at hand” when my comment was about how popular it is now?
Hitler also brought the toothbrush mustache and the Hinduism swatiska symbol for well-being and good luck. They both had plenty of benign usage before Hitler added to its infamy.
Maybe you are so upset because you think the same is going to happen to the term “woke”, but I would argue that any negative intent is added to such a flimsy facade that it’s not really going to matter, people are just going to be ok with it. It’s easy for something to shed the negative connotations when the MAGA are outing themselves at their true intent of the words.
Your insecurities are making you act abusively, and now you seem to be acknowledging your trolling and using it as a justification for this sort of behavior. You don’t care about contributing to the conversation, nor do you care about following the community’s rules. Sir, this is a
Wendy’ssubthread about the rise of popularity of something in a Comic Strips community.What counts as popular is extremely relativistic, subjective and context dependant, but I think being pretty common knowledge amongst a majority of a major minority in this country for decades should count here. Before this racism popped off it was indeed a semi common word in everyday vernacular. “Stay woke” *dap*, could be a greeting, goodbye, etc. Subtle meaning and feeling of comradery and shared understanding of cultural history in a simple and sleek package. This would be a semi common occurrence in many metropolitan areas in the US. Like not 50% or even 5% of all greetings, but certainly understood by most who to whom it applies.
Hard disagree.
You are right in one sense, what counts as popular is extremely relativistic, subjective and context-dependent. That’s the entire point of my observation. The context was popular culture, and they are the ones who brought it there.
The hard disagree is on how popular it was before, which you wouldn’t have to rationalize with the “a majority of a major minority” word juggling definition. Outside of those bubbles, significant as the slang may have been within them, it was not popular, and it shouldn’t be hard to see why: one was slang limited to use within certain social groups, and the other arose from attempting to mock anything they couldn’t openly do so under prejudice which essentially forced it onto popular use and awareness onto the rest of society.
Not sure why people get so vent out of shape about recognition what is and what isn’t popular in popular culture, as if that were somehow some sort of personal or moral value judgement.