The guy I was answering to claimed that the countries were under Turkish or Russian control for more than half a century. Which is not true. Hungary was under Turkish control for around 100 years but you’re not going to tell me that Turkish influence from the 17th century has such a major effect on today’s Hungary.
And while Hungary was under Soviet control it was not really a peaceful and compliant control as they had multiple resistances and popular uprising against them, starting with the 1956 revolution which the Soviets had to put down by killing thousands of Hungarians.
That’s true. I think the only political (if we can call it that) heritage of the Turkish occupation is that the Turkish generally think of Hungarians as friends, probably since it’s a celebrated part of their history.
As for the Soviet era, I’m confident it still has its effects. Of course, it didn’t help economically, but also, I think that’s where our rampant corruption stems from (in most Soviet countries corruption was the norm, and I think it became normalised somewhat, as in “oh yeah, they are corrupt, but that’s nothing compared to what we had before!”).
I think our dependance on Russian gas also started back then (but I don’t have the receipts for that).
Also, there are plenty of people who look at the Soviet era through rose-tinted glasses and romanticise the past. I have relatives that have the attitude of “yes, but if you didn’t rebel, you could have a stable job and live an honest life; nowadays you have to worry about so much”, which doesn’t make sense.
The guy I was answering to claimed that the countries were under Turkish or Russian control for more than half a century. Which is not true. Hungary was under Turkish control for around 100 years but you’re not going to tell me that Turkish influence from the 17th century has such a major effect on today’s Hungary.
And while Hungary was under Soviet control it was not really a peaceful and compliant control as they had multiple resistances and popular uprising against them, starting with the 1956 revolution which the Soviets had to put down by killing thousands of Hungarians.
That’s true. I think the only political (if we can call it that) heritage of the Turkish occupation is that the Turkish generally think of Hungarians as friends, probably since it’s a celebrated part of their history.
As for the Soviet era, I’m confident it still has its effects. Of course, it didn’t help economically, but also, I think that’s where our rampant corruption stems from (in most Soviet countries corruption was the norm, and I think it became normalised somewhat, as in “oh yeah, they are corrupt, but that’s nothing compared to what we had before!”).
I think our dependance on Russian gas also started back then (but I don’t have the receipts for that).
Also, there are plenty of people who look at the Soviet era through rose-tinted glasses and romanticise the past. I have relatives that have the attitude of “yes, but if you didn’t rebel, you could have a stable job and live an honest life; nowadays you have to worry about so much”, which doesn’t make sense.