• quick_snail@feddit.nl
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      3 days ago

      Strong disagree. If you have telephone poles by the road, the power is already there

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        3 days ago

        Power poles in the suburbs here (Canberra) run along back fences, they only exist near the road where they cross a road

        Sydney might be able to hang wires over the road from it’s power poles; no idea if the poles are up to it

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          2 days ago

          Of course they need to install overhead lines. But the power is already there. That’s the hardest part

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        3 days ago

        No telephone poles anywhere near my house. Only along main roads at least 30 mins walk away.

        All the household electrical wiring, internet, cable TV, telephone, natural gas, and water services are underground.

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            3 days ago

            Yeah and it’ll cost millions to tear up the roads and install overhead wires for the bus, just to service 1 neighbourhood out of hundreds, where hardly anyone uses public transit as it is.

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              19 hours ago
              1. They need to tear up next to the road to install power poles
              2. No one uses public transport only when it’s the worst option. In my town public transport is cheaper than parking and only a little slower than driving so a large share of commuters use public transport. Yours must be expensive or inconvenient or uncomfortable
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                13 hours ago

                They’d have to tear down all the tall trees in the neighbourhood to make room for the power poles. There’s no way in hell the car-centric folks who live here would approve of that!

                When you walk down the sidewalk around my street you walk in the shade of these trees most of the time. Replacing those trees with ugly power poles and overhead wires would ruin the character of the neighbourhood.

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                2 days ago

                “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not weakness, that is life.”

                ― Jean-Luc Picard

                Sometimes we get stuck in local extrema. The biggest challenge facing the human race is not climate change, it’s collective action. Simply put, we’re unable to cooperate effectively enough on a large scale to be able to deal with these sorts of problems.

                My city could invest billions of dollars in building a fully electric streetcar transit network and climate change could still proceed largely unabated due to the actions of other people in other areas. In that scenario, my city ends up losing because climate change happened and we wasted all that money on a system that didn’t stop climate change. This is the worse possible outcome so the rational thing (on an individual level, see game theory) to do is avoid it by doing nothing.

            • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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              3 days ago

              hardly anyone uses public transit as it is

              Well, that’s kind of the problem we’re trying to fix here