• TronBronson@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    That’s a pretty broad brushing of a diverse religious group. It sounds like you’re clumping in Catholics with everyone else. Catholics are all about casting people out of the church for not being catholic enough and not so much for sexual predators. But there’s so many small churches based on Christianity, so many different practices…. You just lumped them all together with your grievances with the Catholic Church. It gives intolerance, kind of hypocritical.

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      6 days ago

      That’s a pretty broad brushing of a diverse religious group.

      That’s a ridiculous assertion. I’m sure the follow up sentence ought completely clear up what you must mean here

      It sounds like you’re clumping in Catholics with everyone else.

      What in the world???

      Are you really taking my very obvious example of a person no one would argue is not Christian, to imply that every Christian must somehow be Catholic?

      I cant even begin to see how you misinterpreted my comment in that way.

      You just lumped them all together with your grievances with the Catholic Church. It gives intolerance, kind of hypocritical.

      I did no such thing, and I refuse to believe that you think I did, given that this example couldn’t be any clearer.

      Its especially ridiculous given my example is used as a means to establish that the definition of Christian is indeed far wider not narrower than the poster I responded to.

      This is precisely the opposite of your claim of me narrowing the definition of Christianity with that example. It’s uttterly backwards.

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        5 days ago

        My mans you’re like 30 paragraphs into arguing that Mike Johnson is a Christian and that he should not be narrowed out of that category. You then listed a bunch of grievances that categorized a lot of good critiques on Catholic Church. As a Catholic we’ve always been extremely strict on who gets called that title: there’s a bunch of boxes to check. As far as Christian’s go, that’s anyone with faith in the Bible. People who believe, study, and embody the words of Jesus. That can’t be Mike Johnson.

        It’s very fair for someone who was raised in many Christian churches to decide the virtue of another Christian. There are plenty of good Christian churches out there that produce good Christian’s. Mike Johnson has never been near one of them.

        Thanks for coming to my ted talk. I will not be reviewing your arguments as I found them impotent angry and biased.

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          As far as Christian’s go, that’s anyone with faith in the Bible. People who believe, study, and embody the words of Jesus. That can’t be Mike Johnson.

          BS No true scottsman business. This is exactly what the pope example was. You think a person who helps an organization propagate heinous crimes falls under that definition?

          Your definition is arbitrary, based on interpretation.

          It’s very fair for someone who was raised in many Christian churches to decide the virtue of another Christian.

          So then Its fair for me too right? Suddenly crickets.

          Thanks for coming to my ted talk. I will not be reviewing your arguments

          Seems like that Christian spirit I’ve heard so much about.

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              1 day ago

              Responding to me 3 times on one comment is legitimately psycho behaviour, and acting like calling out a no true scotssman fallacy is in anyway related to adolf hitler is childish and nonsensical.

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            2 days ago

            There are plenty of Christian churches whose hierarchies do not extend past the community they exist in. There are plenty of benevolent churches existing under the title Christian. Throw away the baby with the bath water to make your foul point but you sound like a Fox News anchor raving over Islam

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              There are plenty of Christian churches whose hierarchies do not extend past the community they exist in.

              If by plenty you mean a tiny minority then sure!

              There are plenty of benevolent churches

              Fucking lol to this idea. I’ve never seen something more ridiculous stated in such a matter of fact manner.

              Throw away the baby with the bath water to make your foul point but you sound like a Fox News anchor raving over Islam

              Thats funny, because thats exactly how you reveal yourself to think when you refuse to acknowledge that bad people can be christian.

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            2 days ago

            Idk: something about criticizing the individual and not the entire group of people you loosely associate together. Swap out any religion with what you’re saying and it’s problematic. Almost like demonizing wide swaths of people is wrong or something. You can bring logical fallacies into this but like bro I’m an old man. I don’t wanna have a college debate on religion with a brand new atheist with a point to prove lmao. Save that shit for someone who has a chance of being impressed. If you can’t understand that there is nuance in the topic then you’re not really the person to be wielding all those logical fallacies anyway my guy.

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              This comment doesnt make sense in context. You act like you’re answering a question, but no question was asked for which this is an answer.

              You also clearly are trying to pretend that somehow acknowledging that mike johnson is christian is the same thing as accusing every christian of being exactly like him, which is obviously and openly in bad faith.