• alteredEnvoy@sopuli.xyz
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      12 days ago

      The maximum amount of resources (public transport) one can take is limited. Not everyone wants to take the resource. It is possible to provide more than sufficient resources for everyone.

      I don’t think this is a tragedy of the common problem

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      I know you thought you sounded really smart when you wrote this, but it’s just completely nonsensical to normal people.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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      Tragedy of the Commons is why the roads keep overfilling with commuter cars carrying one person at a time. Public busses and trains would be a more efficient use of funds then building even more roads on the limited ground.

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        It was coined by an ecologist (Garrett Hardin), and (answering myself here after finding out) famously rebutted by the economist Elinor Ostrom, who won the Nobel Prize for her work. So tragedy of the commons, while a real phenomenon and can happen, is not inevitable by current understanding.

        Like in a lot of things, the devil is in the details.

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      If free public transit means people use it, that’s a good thing.

      I think it extremely unlikely people will abuse it to the point of ruining the service.

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        I can imagine a few ways it can go sideways:

        1. People start making perfectly walkable or bikable trips by bus

        2. People start making trips they didn’t need to make at all

        3. Public transit becomes dependent on public funding, which may fluctuate with economic downturns – whereas a private company would be more free to compensate

        As a practical example, Tallinn, Estonia introduced free public transit some years back. Oddly enough, it had almost no effect to car usage although public transit use increased.