WATTERS: And then they sabotaged the teleprompter. I mean, this is an insurrection. And what we need to do is either leave the UN or we need to bomb it. It is in New York though right?

GUTFELD: Yeah, it is.

WATTERS: Could be some fallout there. Alright, maybe gas it?

DANA PERINO (CO-HOST): Let’s not do that.

WATTERS: Don’t gas it. Okay, but we need to destroy it. Maybe can we demolish the building? Have everybody leave and then we will demolish the building.

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    “akshually.”

    You do get it, right, buddy? It is located within the boundaries of the contiguous lower 48. Moreover, in its most populous city.

    Quit being obtuse.

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      Yeah, but he’s right in that it’s not US soil, so if someone does bomb it, the American justice system can just ignore it and foreign powers don’t have any power over American citizens located within the boundaries of the US anyway

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        Nobody disputed that. It’s just exhausting. You think the US would respond neutrally if another entity bombed the UN Building? There’s a tiny park in Tampa that is technically Cuban soil. Do you think Cuba would file articles of war if the US bulldozed José Martí Park for apartments?

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          No, I think if an American domestic terrorist does it, there’s a nice little “didn’t happen in America” defense.

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      It’s distasteful how people who are incorrect can bully and convince others to the contrary to bury truth.

      The United Nations Plaza is firmly extraterritorial as stated in Article III, Section 7(a) of the Headquarters of the United Nations Agreement (1947). US law applies in this territory only to the extent it does not interfere with regulations of the UN which take precedent as defined in Article III, Section 8. So if the United States of America says the land is not American, why are you stating otherwise? Did you bother to look it up before mocking someone else?

      As for your ignorant “but it’s within the borders of…” argument, Vatican City is located within contiguous Italy and even within its most populous city, yet it’s not just extraterritorial but a sovereign country. Did you forget the Holy See existed or do you just deny the validity of the Lateran Treaty because it is surrounded by Rome?

      Finally, if all that weren’t true, the US has bombed its own territory and citizens before: Jayayu in 1950. Of course, if you are ignorant of the Holy See, why would you know that.

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        AFAIK, unlike Vatican City, UNHQ isn’t drawn on any map of the world, and if you were to ask someone to name countries, UNHQ wouldn’t be on anyone’s list.

        Moreover, US laws still apply, which makes the territory not independent. It is a special area of the US, but is still firmly US.

        A similar situation is with, for example, US military bases. They’re part of the county they’re physically in, but the laws are effectively US. It’s more of a “live and let live” situation - even in Cuba.