• Envy@fedia.io
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    8 days ago

    The revelation of john of patmos refers to the resistance of either Nero or Dominion. It doesnt describe nanomachines controlling us.

    The verse youre describing, wearing the mark of the beast (numerology of nero’s name adds up to 616, commonly mistaken as 666) refers to Jewish practice of marking yourself religiously (tefflin) because people were worshipping nero.

    The mark of the beast, with the image of the beast, is roman gold coins bearing his face. You cant buy or trade without roman gold.

    Messianic prophecy is one large Yes And from when Israel was defeated by Babylon, and with tons of callbacks to other prophecies, with someone shoehorning how things all link up. In fact, revelation is believed to have two different authors, because two of the end signs are the exact same (sun is blackened out), almost like the second writer didn’t even double check

    Source: former baptist preacher, tons of theological studies during and after I left, and now a daoist/gnostic.

      • Envy@fedia.io
        13·
        8 days ago

        Finding out the rapture and a lot of the stuff i grew up believing were because of one or two assholes from the 1800s (DL Moody for starters) pissed me the fuck off, especially for how it warped theology and conspiracy theories for generations to come

    • Dharma Curious@startrek.website
      7·
      8 days ago

      Can we be friends? My best friend is also a former Baptist preacher who’s now a daoist/nondualist. I’m a nondualist who’s interested in daoism, and super interested in gnosticism (and occasionally an Episcopalian, especially on holidays ;) )

      • Envy@fedia.io
        6·
        8 days ago

        Your best friend sounds amazing! Always happy to DM and maybe Signal, especially anything related to theology and the esoteric 😊

        • Dharma Curious@startrek.website
          5·
          6 days ago

          Mhmm, yup. We’re a denomination founded around the “Jesus fish.” During the reign of Henry the 8th there was a lot of controversy, because Catholics didn’t eat meat on Friday, and Henry wanted to murder his wife. But the pope said that wasn’t cool, because Henry wanted to do it on a Friday (so he could take the weekend to recover, y’know?), and the pope said that that fell under the whole no meat on Friday thing, since once someone is dead, they’re more meat-like, and Henry said that he wasn’t going to eat her, but the pope was like “still not cool, bro, do it on a Thursday” and Henry didn’t take kindly to bring called bro by a dude in a dress, so he founded the church of England (then called the Church in England), and he got to murder his wives, but in exchange for not crusading against England for doing this, Henry agreed to the popes compromise that they could murder wives on Friday, so long as they also ate fish.

          Well, when the US was founded, we really took that whole fish thing and ran with it. Started putting little Jesus fish bumper stickers on our carriages, branding them on our horses, the whole shebang. By the time the US split from England, though, there were no bishops left that would ordain American clergy, so we went to the Scottish, and they ordained us a few starter bishops to get us through the lean times, but by then there were enough disagreements between us as the CoE that we decided to just go ahead and change the name, and now we exclusively eat fish, and we’re called Episcopalians.

    • Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      7 days ago

      Wait, you mean the whole of Abrahamic “lore” is plagiarized and/or made up to glue lifted sections together? No way. 😱

      /s