• baines@lemmy.cafe
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    oh but history shows they were

    we don’t have to guess how this plays out, educate yourself

    ‘better’ is for the strong and civilized, we are not strong in this mess and civil went out with Jan 6th

    they’ve broken the social contract, they no longer deserve its protection

    but it’s moot, this will go the same way it did in Germany

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        if you’re not in the US I can’t claim to be informed enough

        i do know Nazis are resurfacing everywhere though so more than likely you’re just fucking oblivious

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            read about nazi germany it will be too late

            in the US they are playing boiling the frog and soon they’ll escalate all the way, it will happen fast and violent

            i’m not advocating violence, I’m saying we’re going to regret not having done so

            paradox of tolerance should be required study

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              read about nazi germany it will be too late

              Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother’s side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father’s side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I’ve had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

              I see what’s happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don’t want it to come like that, that’s why I’m politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can’t just do whatever the fuck they want.

              The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there’s no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don’t dehumanize your enemy, don’t treat others how you don’t want to be treated yourself.

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                  … Said Hitler about the jews. Said Netanyahu about Palestinians. Said Trump about trans people.

                  If you think you are superior and consider them untermenschen, how are you any different from a fascist exactly?

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                    When a fascist talks shit, it’s talking about itself. Literally always.

                    Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.

                    how are you different

                    Blue hair, for one. Very important difference. But stuff that will hit harder for stuffy old intellectual sorts, in case any read this:

                    I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…

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                then don’t act fucking surprised

                not reading the rest of that wall, you should know better