• Tja@programming.dev
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    10 hours ago

    “the people are progressive”

    Said about a country that voted for trump, twice. And every corporate democrat in every primary.

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      9 hours ago

      National elections are won by the over representation of land versus people and the winner-take-all electoral college.

      It’s a very broken system but it’s the one we have. So yes, the people are progressive but land and the electoral college wins elections.

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      9 hours ago

      Both of those times were through an antiquated and unrepresentative system and with less than 50% the vote with low voter participation.

      Less than a third of the eligible to vote population ≠ the country.

      Well-meaning people pretending/being fooled into honestly believing that the presidential elections accurately reflect the will of the people without any trickery and downright fraud is how the corrupt demagoguery is allowed to persist.

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          8 hours ago

          No. Once again your blind trust in institutions leads you astray.

          There are tens of millions of Americans for whom voting is made extremely difficult and time-consuming if not downright impossible to do by deliberate voter suppression tactics from (mostly but not exclusively) Republicans.

          If there had been free, open, and fair elections, the GOP would never be able to win a nationwide election.

          You don’t fix the system by assuming that it works as officially intended and blaming the powerless for the outcomes created by the powerful and corrupt.

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            6 hours ago

            You don’t need to walk uphill for 20 miles in the snow to vote. You need to check a website anytime in the months before the election and then stand in line for a while. As the worse case, because sometimes you can vote early or per Mail.