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    it’s not and it hasn’t… keep fighting until he is mayor and starts enacting what he is promising

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    Failed? It’s been less than a week. They’re threatening to denaturalize and deport him. Sounds like they’re very frightened.

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      Bruh, no, I didn’t remember until you posted this. Holy shit. It’s been a longass 10 years.

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    Am Jewish, am native New Yorker, no longer live there, would vote Mamdani. Fuck Israel.

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    Media: “Everyone, this guy doesn’t grovel for Israel!”

    Everyone: “okay that sounds good.”

    Not sure if this was a smear campaign as much as the lobby getting high on it’s own supply.

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    But Cuomo tried very hard to turn it into a referendum on Mamdani’s views on Israel and Palestine—and the media establishment took the bait.

    It’s weird this is an issue in a mayoral campaign in the USA. The role has no foreign policy authority whatsoever, and Palestine/Israel is 5700 miles from NYC.

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      Plus, Israel is super unpopular right now. Mainstream media and establishment politicians don’t get this. The more they criticize Mamdani for his lack of allegiance to Israel, the more people will vote for him!

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        MSM used to know that they needed to smear anti-Israel candidates on other subjects. They got high on their own supply. Probably because they fired all the non zealots.

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          I think they are used to the old world in which being able to intentionally conflate being anti-Israel with “antisemitic” and have that bullshit being swallowed by most people.

          The days of them being gatekeepers on that in particular are long, long gone. It is and always was complete horseshit to label anyone critical of Israel running an open-air prison “antisemitic”, but for most of my lifetime, that was just de rigueur. If anyone were to question it, you’d have most of the left and the right coming down on them.

          I think the more that MSM continues to try to cling that, the more they will lose credibility on lots of other things. At least some of them now seem to recognize that most of us think their “both sides” framing is complete horseshit and it’s become nearly a punchline, finally, after all these years. They will probably cling to that even harder than the Israel gatekeeping they do. Related, I think they’ll really resist calling the lying liars on the right out on their lies and invective the most.

          As an example, I constantly see most of them not even blink when a prominent Republican sits there and talks about the “Democrat Party”. Anyone in media must know this is an intentional and constant slur and yet, they don’t call them out on it. I’d like to see them sitting there and not correcting the Republicans and asking why they INSIST on this constant insult taken as nearly the same punchline as “both sides” framing is right now and start to change their behavior. They have been letting the Republicans do this for decades and they know full well what is going on, and do nothing. I’m so sick of that. It’s no small thing, it’s a corollary to the “both sides” framing that is so harmful to our nation - letting Republicans sit there and insult most of the country as well as lie brazenly and not get called out on it as to what they are doing…

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      Yeah the most bizarre thing to me was seeing the debate and hearing a question about foreign nation visits

      Like wtf is a city mayor doing visiting other countries and why would we care

      That was super weird. It was trying to bait out mamdani and other progressive views about Israel but man what a word question for a mayoral race

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      He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.

      When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

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        Yeah but he’s doing it for those NYC liberal elites, so improving their way of life is a bad thing you see.

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        Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.

        Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.

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        the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

        What’s that old saying like “none are so blind as those who will not see”? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in “socialism bad, democrats bad” that it’s going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.

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          Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate “Obamacare” - which apparently has “death panels”…

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          That’s definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they’ve been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.

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            I think there’s some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don’t like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.

            I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can’t let social programs get in because people like them too much.

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        So, he’s planning to decrease the value of Trumps places… Dangerous moves… I still wait for the first US politicians and judges that work against the Forth Reich to causually fall from windows.

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            Shit what’s wrong with .world?

            I just set up my new account there because mine is about to die. Do I need to go elsewhere?

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              They’re not generally fans of communism, plus the other replies. Your preferences may vary.

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              The .world admins are… Not great. There have been several instances of them cozying up to users with unfortunate viewpoints. It’s not as bad as Reddit, but it’s certainly not great either.

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                I have had multiple comments removed for “misinformation” because I outlined historical context that goes against anti-communist rhetoric. All factual stuff that anyone could google, but it makes communism look not terrible so the mods of .world removed it.

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                  DBzero is where I would sign up if I weren’t best suited to blahaj zone. Highly recommend

                  (I’m not the person you asked though)

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                The person I asked are the instance? Because the instance seems okay but I haven’t really looked

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                  You may also check instances that are de/federated as well, and may want to join several instances just to get a different mix, even if de/federation is similar. You can use the same username on them, assuming it’s not already in use.

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        he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I’m all for this guy but he’s going to need everyone’s help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!

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          Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.

          He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.

          He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.

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            that aren’t set by the mayors office, but the state

            edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.

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              The existing one is set by the state, but I’m not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn’t be set by the mayor’s office as mayors don’t actually make laws, but I don’t see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it’s ultimately up to Hochul.

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                idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn’t interested in this plan so it’s a fight. I’m not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.

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                  Yes, but you’re talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can’t institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that’s precluded by law the existing tax doesn’t really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.

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        Socialism has failed every time it’s been attempted, for one very good reason.

        I fully expect the CIA to get involved. Probably before the general election even happens.

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          Oh and another child left behind…

          Are you christian? How come? This Joshua Ben Josef guy had some quite “social” ideas… Like the needles eye thingy, the love their neighbors, etc… etc…

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            Lol what a strange stretch. I’m not Christian, I’m an atheist socialist annoyed at how the US government has historically worked to overthrow socialism everywhere in the world.

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              Somehow most “good god fearing american partiots” forget that their messiah was quite a social revoluzer and aramaic jew… Actually I’m pissed that the guy and his posse that reigns my country atm are the great Trump and his band of fashists ass kissers and do not have the balls to say where the real problems are located

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          He’s not implementing socialism. He’s using democratic socialism, an existing facet of our economy, on city-wide needs.

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      There’s a huge Jewish population in NYC, and many mistakenly assume that all of them support what Israel is doing. To a lot of people Judaism=Zionism.

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        That’s a weird assumption. Many Jews strongly oppose it, including Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Ben and Jerry from the ice cream, and probably millions of less famous Jews.

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        Even if that assumption were correct, the mayor of NYC cannot meaningfully aid or hinder Israel’s actions. A politician’s position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they’re seeking doesn’t usually influence my vote.

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          The oligarchs can’t win on the merits of their policies, so they desperately resort to identity politics to try to divide us.

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          A politician’s position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they’re seeking doesn’t usually influence my vote

          You’re probably the minority on that

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          There might be some things the mayor could do, like joining boycotts, etc.

          Certainly he can stop or interfere with the crackdown on pro-palestinian dissent in the city which has been extreme under Adams and Trump.

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        Well there’s my surprising fact of the day.

        Looks like it’s just one officer, but it seems like they could do outreach and intelligence sharing without someone permanently stationed there.

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    The smear campaign against Zohran Mamdani isn’t over, and won’t be over for as long as he’s in politics, and then a little after.

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      Definitely not over. Assuming he wins the election, I would anticipate a lot of sabotage stemming from establishment politicians and public servants. If they can’t win this election, they’ll want to make his term as mayor as discordant and ineffectual as possible, to make it easier for a more conservative/establishment candidate to win the next one.

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          Progress is still something to celebrate. Without the first step, the others cant follow

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            But maybe not before the metaphorical battle is even won, much less the war. He still needs to win the actual election, and then assuming that happens, it’s going to require constant effort to try to overcome all of the resistance in the way of actually doing the job.

            Not saying folks can’t be happy that he’s in the running over known sex pest Cuomo, but I just think it’s premature to celebrate when there is still so much work to be done.

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      In New York, the Dem primary is MUCH more competitive than the general against (perennial loser and hyper-racist vigilante) Curtis Sliwa and whichever dross failed to achieve the backing of one of the parties but are still rich and/or corrupt enough to afford running anyway.

      Other than Sliwa, his opponents will be a corrupt as fuck compulsive liar who was probably days from being sentenced to prison when he decided to pledge his allegiance to the Mango Mussolini without joining the GOP, and possibly the sex offender he just beat.

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        Are we expecting the Democratic party to actually support him? Seems the national leadership would rather see someone else in his spot.

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          I for one am DEFINITELY not, no.

          Will be interesting to see what they do tbh, since Cuomo has already lost to him once and the other two candidates are openly sucking up to the Mango Mussolini. Makes endorsing anyone quite the tricky proposition…

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    OK, so next it’ll be the an entrapment operation? And then maybe an assassination?

    I mean, if history is our guide…

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    On the one hand I’m surprised, but on the other I’m not since most political consultants are fucking out of touch idiots, but I think they were lazy and went for the more recent “hate Palestine or you’re an antisemite” bit and found it didn’t work.

    Next I’m worried they’re going to use the much more effective “defund the police makes you unsafe” bit and lean heavier into the “communist” game, if he doesn’t get deported first of course… I’m very happy he won the primary, but I have very little faith he’s going to win the general election unfortunately :/

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      lean heavier into the “communist” game

      I do sometimes wonder how effective this is. Before the rise of openly fascist influencers and things like 4chan, I would have laughed and told the Angry White Men trying this something like “the 1950s called and want their Red Scare back”.

      But these red-pillers have done a lot to conflate POC, non-xtians, feminists, LGBTQ, and liberals with “communists” and advocate for the likes of fascists like Pinochet (who “did nothing wrong”) and giving “communists” “free helicopter rides” and I do wonder. Especially when it comes to that cyclical theory of the rise of authoritarian terror.

      The young people falling into the brosphere/redpill thing probably have zero historical context and are just going to generally be utterly clueless about the dangers of what they are falling in with…they might think they’ll get to be ones conducting violence on others in the name of “fighting communism”, but they probably don’t realize that these things tend to get very ugly, even for the people perpetrating the violence, even if they are complete psychopaths that only care about themselves. Eventually, there are not enough “outsiders”, and you have to invent more…and even the “good” psychopaths might find themselves on the other end of that gun…

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      went for the more recent “hate Palestine or you’re an antisemite” bit and found it didn’t work.

      I’m not sure how recent that is? In any case, it’s hilarious to watch the right trying to do this, even still and I just don’t think it’s landing like it used to. It used to just be assumed as axiomatic by the “liberal media” and the unhinged right wing media in the 90s and certainly right after 9/11.

      These days…any gatekeeping on that Beltway opinion seems to result in a faceplant. I just don’t think as many people buy into that bullshit like they might have before. The days of 3 outlets for evening news + a few cable news stations (that propped up the same narrative) are long, long gone…most people get their news from “social media” these days, which has a lot of good and bad. This is one of the good outcomes of that, I think.

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      Have a little faith, he’s the heavy favorite. The city’s unions and politicians are in the process of rallying around him, while his opponents are all jokes who likely won’t get as many votes combined as Zohran.

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      It was similar to Jeremy Corbyn (I’m not arguing he’s perfect) where they didn’t think he could beat Labour as an independent

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      What do you mean? The hard part is behind us, Zohran is now the heavy favorite in the general election.

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      That’s the ticket.

      Vote in the primary. Vote in the general. Write your representatives. Do everything you’re supposed to do but don’t assume it will ever work.

      If I didn’t have that attitude I’d have given up on voting ten years ago.

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    TIL Nearly 350k millioners in NYC. AI says: New York City is home to nearly 349,500 millionaires, according to a report by Henley & Partners and New World Wealth. This makes it the city with the largest number of millionaires in the world. Furthermore, one in every 24 residents of New York City is a millionaire.

    Looked it up because of this other comment