• DarkDecay@lemmy.world
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    23 天前

    Well lets see. Dough brain trump is in charge, his defense secretary can’t use a messaging app and virtually everyone else in his administration is probably licking a window somewhere. Yes I think it will be a mistake

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    But but but - I thought it was MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?!

    the guy got his picture in a flight suit and everything!

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      23 天前

      “freedom is on the march”

      And Americans ate it up like the crummy greasy fast food most of them live on.

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        23 天前

        Good comparison with fast food, plenty of folks consume propaganda for similar reasons. Just as there are food deserts there are also information deserts.

  • three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social
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    23 天前

    This is going to be the breaking point if we actually put boots on the ground in Iran and don’t just engage in drone terrorism and bombing runs. More military action in the middle east is a ubiquitously unpopular platform, and wars that are perceived as pointless have almost always been devastating to ruling party / presidential support. Further, the US military has been struggling to hit its recruitment numbers for years now, and this isn’t going to help that. It also stretches the government’s attention even further, and makes it more vulnerable to dissident activity at home.

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    23 天前

    Mistake: Yes.

    Help out Ukraine unintentionally: also yes.

    If the US attacks Iran, there goes Russias Shahed drone supplier.

    That’s why Tucker and Bannon are all up in arms about attacking Iran. That hurts Mother Russia

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    I agree Iraq was a mistake, but I believe Iraq was a mistake based on intelligence failure - which UK, Australia, Japan, and others agreed to participate. That failure took two years to complete and the Us gave Iraq tome to cooperate with UN weapons inspection teams. Yes, a mistake - but a mistake that the US did not do unilaterally.

    Trump isn’t going to garner support from other countries, wait for the UN, or examine Tulsi G’s info on Iran nukes - he just wants to swing his military like a giant penis.

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      I agree Iraq was a mistake, but I believe Iraq was a mistake based on intelligence failure

      If it was just an intelligence failure half the country wouldn’t be railing against it. Iraq was also justified by lies, just slightly better packaged lies.

      • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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        Our own intelligence agencies were at odds with each other. Part of the justification for going into Iraq was their supposed support for terrorist groups which was shakey at best.

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          Bullshit the CIA literally told the administration and they lied on stand in the UN to start the war. Don’t act like the only two conflicts of interests that made billions didn’t get anything out of starting the greedy endeavor called the Iraq War.

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          In the late 1970s and early 80s Iraq under the control of Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons, including mustard, gas to attack Iran.

          Under Saddam Hussein Iraq also used chemical weapons to attack a minority ethnic population called the Kurdish in their own borders

          And in the 1990’s Saddam, invaded another country without cause.

          All those facts together, it felt totally reasonable to believe that Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and was willing to use them or give them to terrorist

          I know that this is contrary to the popular message in the media these days, but it’s a time living through the actual event, there was another perspective to this whole story

          

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            All those facts together, it felt totally reasonable to believe that Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and was willing to use them or give them to terrorist

            Only if you ignore… literally everything else about the situation. “Felt reasonable” isn’t an excuse to start a fucking war.

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      Buddy… The whole world minus cuck UK were telling us the whole WMDS thing was bullshit.

      The Bush administration manufactured evidence and send Powell to the UN to lie.