If it’s not a flag about hate, what is it about? Southern pride/tradition? Pride in what? What did the South do that was so different from the rest of the US at the time of the civil war?
Oh, maybe they meant that it was about “love for slavery”. It’s a flag of love!
Not defending it, but I think for them it means pride in their region/area/heritage. And it’s not about anything deeper than that. It’s like a college sports team for them. Like the rich white fan base for Duke, and UNC being just a couple miles away.
Looking at the south, there’s not much else they can be proud of. Mississippi was god’s mistake. Luckily its surrounded by other shithole states. It’s like having warning signs before you enter a danger zone.
That’s quite a bit reductive. We have a lively history of activisim, resistance and rebellion along with the modern cultural influences and destination cities that people flock to far before the fly over states
Culturally in the rural south, a lot goes into convincing as many people as possible that the civil war had little to do with racism and instead it was about the elite northerners vaguely bossing the poor southerners around.
As a consequence, they get that flag flown by a fair number of oblivious people that either worship some idealized vision of the antebellum south or just in general people saying “being a rebel is cool”.
Like Dukes of Hazard fans largely treated it as a symbol of generic righteous rebellion rather than referring to the core principles of the conflict that created the flag.
You can be proud of your state/region/etc. without being specifically proud of traitor, enemy state… that lasted what ~4 years? People would rightly be upset if someone few an Al-Qaeda, or ISIS flag, or a Nazi flag, etc. The confederate flag, IMO, is no different. Someone can be from the countries these places operate(d) out of, without supporting, these groups.
And to claim that ~4 years as heritage… that’s a bit of a stretch. But also, problematic IMO. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heritage This to me, implies, these people are still actively trying to trade and own human lives.
If it’s not a flag about hate, what is it about? Southern pride/tradition? Pride in what? What did the South do that was so different from the rest of the US at the time of the civil war?
Oh, maybe they meant that it was about “love for slavery”. It’s a flag of love!
Fascist, racist, uneducated fuck ups.
Not defending it, but I think for them it means pride in their region/area/heritage. And it’s not about anything deeper than that. It’s like a college sports team for them. Like the rich white fan base for Duke, and UNC being just a couple miles away.
Personally I’d be ashamed of my regional heritage if the only thing that made it different was slavery…
Looking at the south, there’s not much else they can be proud of. Mississippi was god’s mistake. Luckily its surrounded by other shithole states. It’s like having warning signs before you enter a danger zone.
That’s quite a bit reductive. We have a lively history of activisim, resistance and rebellion along with the modern cultural influences and destination cities that people flock to far before the fly over states
Half tongue-in-cheek.
Ima be real with ya. I just like dunking on the traitorous bastards. The Mississippi joke is lifted from Chris rock
It’s not, it’s specifically celebrating racist traitorous losers.
It’s not about heritage. It’s not like only southerners fly the flag. Really, I blame Dukes of Hazard.
That is exactly why you see them at Klan rallies.
Of course the Klan also flies the US flag.
Culturally in the rural south, a lot goes into convincing as many people as possible that the civil war had little to do with racism and instead it was about the elite northerners vaguely bossing the poor southerners around.
As a consequence, they get that flag flown by a fair number of oblivious people that either worship some idealized vision of the antebellum south or just in general people saying “being a rebel is cool”.
Like Dukes of Hazard fans largely treated it as a symbol of generic righteous rebellion rather than referring to the core principles of the conflict that created the flag.
You can be proud of your state/region/etc. without being specifically proud of traitor, enemy state… that lasted what ~4 years? People would rightly be upset if someone few an Al-Qaeda, or ISIS flag, or a Nazi flag, etc. The confederate flag, IMO, is no different. Someone can be from the countries these places operate(d) out of, without supporting, these groups.
And to claim that ~4 years as heritage… that’s a bit of a stretch. But also, problematic IMO. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/heritage This to me, implies, these people are still actively trying to trade and own human lives.
I think I’ve read that the Confederate flag specifically was one of the flags of Tennessee, so a bit older.
Anyway, I’ve never been in the USA.
Fuck naw lots wear their racism proudly.