• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

    Just because Israel are horrible, doesn’t automatically make the people they’re fighting the good guys.

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      3 days ago

      Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I’d want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

    • hark@lemmy.world
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      Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

      Iran has the right to defend themselves. Without nukes, they’re going to end up like Iraq, Libya, or the countless other countries that Israel and the US felt like destroying. They’re champing at the bit to smash Iran to pieces and it’s not going to stop at limiting nuclear capabilities.

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        4 days ago

        Iran has multiple enrichment sites, with a reported 83.7% pure U-235. Such purity is only needed for one thing, and it isn’t nuclear power plants which typically only need 3%-5% U-235.

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          Haleu fuel is pretty common that’s enriched up to about 20%. Highly enriched fuel is still used for nuclear power on aircraft carriers that use 93% enriched U235.

          Iran is definitely just trying to make weapons but wanted to at least give some examples of higher enriched fuels

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            3 days ago

            Being that we know Iran sells weapons to Russia, I wonder where it would be cheaper to produce weapons. Would it be cheaper for Russia to pay to have certain things created elsewhere or in Russia. We know a lot of Russia’s weapons in the past were built in what now is Ukraine. Examples would be their Aircraft Carriers, destroyers, etc. Hell one of their main Aircraft Carriers was named Kiev

      • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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        4 days ago

        Every credible comment I’ve read says they’re in the process of developing them, the only group who says otherwise is Iran themselves.

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        From all available intelligence, no. They clearly have a nuclear weapons program (which are insanely huge to begin with) but there has never been a measured test, and no evidence of enriched uranium at a high enough purity to be weaponized.

        It’s insanely hard work to created weaponized enriched uranium. With the sanctions Iran has had for decades it would be next to impossible for them to get all the stuff they need to create it on their own.

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      3 days ago

      Funny how liberals never say this about Ukraine and Russia. It’s only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about “both sides bad”

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        Funny how tankies always think “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. They have no capacity for nuance.

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        “non-whites fight back” is an interesting way to describe the fucked up, nuke happy, Ayatollah regime that’s plaguing Iran.

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        It’s only when non-whites fight back that they start bloviating about “both sides bad”

        To be thinking that Iranians aren’t good enough to deserve human rights and democracy because they aren’t western/white sounds racist.

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          Don’t worry, I understand that - while it may seems to be an analogous situation on the surface - Ukraine a White country and Iran is not, and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.

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            Ukraine a White country and Iran is not

            And yet Iran is literally where the “Aryians” originated who were idolized by Hitler.

            , and to Western liberals, that makes all the difference in the world.

            Here is the actual thing that makes all the difference in the world. It would be racist to think that Iranians don’t deserve human rights and freedom, which implies they aren’t as good as people in the west.

            Russia, Iran - dictatorships.

            Ukraine - democracy

            Israel - democracy (but moving away)

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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              The fact that you consider Israel a democracy when it denies millions of its subjects, not just the right to vote, but all rights at all, further demonstrates that you’re just a white supremacist.

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      Hasn’t Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell’s jar to appear any moment now).

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      Most definitely. I want every country on Earth to have their own nuclear weapons. It’s the ultimate deterrent.