An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.
Hamas said it had taken “dozens” of Israeli soldiers hostage and moved them to the Gaza Strip as footage emerged appearing to show gunmen in military fatigues leading a group of mostly barefoot women down a street in Israel.
The announcement and video verified by NBC News came hours after Hamas launched a deadly land, air and sea attack and fired a huge barrage of rockets at Israel.
Ah yes, the old “blood and soil” justification. We have a term for people that think this way: Fascist.
Fkin tankies man 😂
Had the Nazis had a hammer and sickle instead of the hakenkreuz, they would be the biggest Sieg Heilers out there.
It’s really bizarre. Kids that have been conditioned by the internet to think democratic countries are bad and authoritarian countries are good. Ideologies are stupid in general, but the tankie thing is just batshit. Hopefully it’s just a weird phase for them, but I see there’s a bunch of tankie grifters on Youtube and as we see with the MAGA grifters, once people develop weird parasocial tendencies they struggle to get out of it.
Not only that… There are some idiots who genuinely believe that China and the USSR were/are democratic and that western democracies aren’t.
True :(
Fascism is supporting Israel, what a crazy thing to say.
Do you even know what fascism is?
Israel is a Democracy.
There hasn’t been an election in Gaza since Hamas gained control… how long has it been? 18 years? Elections have been permanently suspended by Hamas probably longer than you’ve been alive.
And look at what Hamas is doing right now. And why? Blood and soil.
That should be a clue.
Israel is a Democracy.
An Apartheid democracy. What Israel is doing in East Palestine and the West bank, and what they were doing in Gaza before the second intifada, is literally Lebensraum.
“Apartheid state” rhetoric is just covering for the Hamas fascists. See before Hamas got into power Palestine had elections to determine their national leadership. But Hamas got into power and “permanently suspended” elections. They ended Palestinian democracy and by doing so destroyed any hope of Palestine being recognized as a legitimate country by anyone that’s not playing bullshit games.
So now Hamas apologists try to rewrite history to convince people there was never any Palestinian democracy, and try to characterize the conflict as something happening within Israel’s borders, thus “Apartheid state.”
I suppose it’s been so long since Hamas ended democracy in Palestine the younger people don’t have any concept of there ever being Palestinian elections, so maybe it’s understandable to think it’s unfair that Israel doesn’t allow people in the West Bank to vote in Israeli elections. But if you think about it logically, in order for Palestinians in the West Bank to have the rights of Israelis, Israel would have to annex the West Bank. Is that what you want? In order for people in Gaza to have the same rights as Israelis, first Israel would have to re-occupy Gaza, then annex it as well, Is that what you want?
I’m not defending it, but that kinda bypasses a whole lot of context (it was Fatah who tried to ignore the election results first). ?Anyway I’m not saying Hamas are good guys. Anyone who just shoots up civilians is evil in my book, but I’m not sure how that has to do with Israel being an Apartheid state.
I’m talking about the already-annexed East Jerusalem. Either give them independence or let them vote on how they’re governed; and no, city elections aren’t enough.
According to Al Jazeera, Palestinians in East Jerusalem (though apparently they consider it to be “occupied”) do have the right to vote.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/10/31/elections-7
It’s just that Palestinians tend not to vote in Israeli elections. And Israel has a proportional representation system which has a tendency towards the “two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch” scenario. Minority concerns tend to get factored out in that kind of system.
But I digress, Palestinians in territory annexed by Israel have the right to vote in Israeli elections. They just have low voter turn out. East Jerusalem is Annexed so they can have representation if they want it.
Palestinians in East Jerusalem can have representation in the Knesset if they turn out to vote. It’s questionable what that representation even means in a proportional representation system, but at least where voting rights are concerned, they’re better off than residents of Washington DC.
So yeah the “Apartheid state” meme is all about using ignorance to distract from how Hamas is the group that’s preventing Palestinians from being able to vote for their leaders. Hopefully you’re now less ignorant of the situation there.
-Wikipedia. I think Al-Jazeera is talking about Palestinians who do have Israeli citizenship, because as I said East Jerusalem Palestinians who don’t have Israeli citizenship can only vote in local elections.
This is what I meant by giving them the right to vote. East Palestinians are systematically denied that right.
Almost exactly the same problem exists when they apply for building permits.