Biden added: “Let me be clear: I made the decisions during my presidency. I made the decisions about the pardons, executive orders, legislation and proclamations. Any suggestion that I didn’t is ridiculous and false.”

God damn, so politically stupid to not realize that these political attacks works since he’s still defending himself from these same political attacks.

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    We are literally watching your accelerationist theory fall apart at this very moment and you still defend it. This is the result you wanted, right? Democrats got their ass handed to them last November so they were forced to admit their mistakes and began pushing their platform further left and taking stronger stances against Republicans and genocide. Right? Surely by now your theory of voting for the worse outcome should have taught them the correct lesson? You aren’t just a useful tool to enable fascism with no upside? Right??

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      Accelerationsism is saying that the Democrats need to step to the right and be more like Republicans to win elections.

      Accelerationism is not saying that Democrats need to focus on their base and speaking to the issues the base finds important, to win elections.

      Your claim that what I’m describing is accelerationist shows you both don’t understand the point I’m making, or what accelerationism is.

      Apologizing and defending the Democrats continued step to the right is accelerationism. You are arguing that voters just need to catch up to this rightward shift.

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          You are just gaslighting at this point.

          The voters aren’t different than they are. They didn’t want to vote for genocide so they didn’t. Harris didn’t offer them another choice so they didn’t show up.

          That’s her fault, and yes, her rightward shift is accelerationism. The defense of that as an approach to electoralism is also accelerationism.

          And it fucking loses elections. Democratic voters aren’t having it. They don’t want right wing politics. They don’t want a right wing Democratic party. They won’t vote for it.

          You have to decide between being an apologist for genocide or winning elections.

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            Gotta love how liberals have decided to call “I want less murder” now accelerationism.

            They just parrot whatever some commenter said without ever checking what words mean.

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              I’m just constantly exhausted by having to reign this fantastical thinking in. Years of having to push back against this adolescent and mediocre drivel.

              And we’ve made great progress. The narrative has truly shifted and people really have moved on their understanding that the Democrats and the manner in which they conduct themselves are fundamental to why fascism continues to accelerate. Not all of them, but its way better than where we were a year ago.

              But jfc, its tiring.

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            Once again, here we are though, in a paradise of your own creation. Isn’t it great? Aren’t you happy with the state of things? Fascism is in full bloom, access to the polls is shrinking, genocide has sped up. Socialism must be right around the corner, right? Looks like your vote against Harris is going to save the world after all.

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              genocide has sped up.

              Check your murder numbers, so far thats just not true. You might be right long term, but the vast bulk of the genocide of civilians based on their ehtnicity happened on Bidens watch. And your couching those words the way you did shows you are in denial about it. You think “our side” must be “the good guys” where the ‘slightly better’ outcomes happen.

              All dem voters were betrayed and thats a big part of why the lefty Dem voters are extremely angry and are revolting against centrist leadership and the fundamentals of our party setup. They have very good reasons to be angry. It would be a good start for the party to acknowledge that betrayal, apologize, and state unequivocally they wont do that again. Until that happens this wound will sit and fester, and more elections that should be slam dunks will be lost-- assuming we have any more.

              You cant just dust over genocide and pretend its not there. Enough of us are well past helping you pretend thats the case. Thats my definition of accelerationism, and its not up for your approval.

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              Who is living the fiction here?

              Democrats litterally did precisely what you’ve outlined here. They lost the election. The failed to engage with their voters on their voters terms.

              They lost. Your approach loses. It’s a losing strategy. You can’t move an electorate. You can move a candidate. Expecting voters to change to accept a bad candidate loses elections. Stop fucking advocating for it.