Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.
I like how you are acting like most of us haven’t played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It’s certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren’t a thing.
I fully expect for police to have to fear being “suppressive fired” soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.
How many people actually go out to a range every single week and burn through a couple hundred rounds working on training drills though? I did shooting at distance today (100-550y with .223) and burned through about 140 rounds, and most ranges don’t even have that kind of distance available. (Thank fuck the RSO had a spotting scope; I couldn’t see my splash in the grass to see where my rounds were going when I didn’t hit. He was able to see trace with his scope though.)
Not a lot, I imagine! Still a pretty low hurdle to clear. All you really need is ammunition and a place to shoot it. It sure helps to have a spotter/RSO/somebody who knows what they’re doing, but you can muddle through all right given enough trigger time.
First - the place to shoot is the hard part for many people. Indoor ranges don’t allow you to do the kind of practice that you would need to do in order to become proficient with an automatic firearm. Outdoor ranges are quite a drive for most people.
Second, and more important - the fact that people can learn doesn’t mean a lot. Most people, including most gun owners, don’t. A shockingly large percentage of gun owners don’t practice regularly, or at all.
It’s enough to learn when you are being gaslighted about machine gun ammo consumption. Yes, it eats ammo faster, but it is also more dangerous. Furthermore, being fully automatic doesn’t mean you spam it until it consumes the whole cartridge, it means you have more control how many bullets you can track with each trigger engagement. It’s why burst mode exists, but better. People do have an idea in how to control ammo consumption, it is a core game mechanic with most games with guns.
Nice I’ve been wanting a FRT. machine guns aren’t very good for mass shootings. All your ammo is gone instantly and you’re way less accurate. It’s good for suppressing fire, and fun in the backyard. This is not going to lead to more gun deaths.
I like how you are acting like most of us haven’t played an FPS. The biggest difference is that there is no balance nerf between the damage an automatic bullet does and a semiautomatic bullet does. It’s certainly leading to more gun deaths in Mexico, where a lot of these weapons are getting exported down to, although it is refreshing to act like school shootings still aren’t a thing.
I fully expect for police to have to fear being “suppressive fired” soon enough, there are enough militant groups within the US that will enjoy the news, specially given the number of their members that were pardoned for Jan 6th.
Games are not equal to real life. 99 percent of people would have no idea how to control a machine gun.
True enough, but it’s not very hard to learn.
How many people actually go out to a range every single week and burn through a couple hundred rounds working on training drills though? I did shooting at distance today (100-550y with .223) and burned through about 140 rounds, and most ranges don’t even have that kind of distance available. (Thank fuck the RSO had a spotting scope; I couldn’t see my splash in the grass to see where my rounds were going when I didn’t hit. He was able to see trace with his scope though.)
Not a lot, I imagine! Still a pretty low hurdle to clear. All you really need is ammunition and a place to shoot it. It sure helps to have a spotter/RSO/somebody who knows what they’re doing, but you can muddle through all right given enough trigger time.
First - the place to shoot is the hard part for many people. Indoor ranges don’t allow you to do the kind of practice that you would need to do in order to become proficient with an automatic firearm. Outdoor ranges are quite a drive for most people.
Second, and more important - the fact that people can learn doesn’t mean a lot. Most people, including most gun owners, don’t. A shockingly large percentage of gun owners don’t practice regularly, or at all.
What if I’ve watched Rambo? Does that work?
It’s enough to learn when you are being gaslighted about machine gun ammo consumption. Yes, it eats ammo faster, but it is also more dangerous. Furthermore, being fully automatic doesn’t mean you spam it until it consumes the whole cartridge, it means you have more control how many bullets you can track with each trigger engagement. It’s why burst mode exists, but better. People do have an idea in how to control ammo consumption, it is a core game mechanic with most games with guns.
Let us not forget… an FRT doesn’t even constitute a “machine gun” by their own definition!
Does this mean we can get one now in California? Or is this still not settled?
I’d like to know too in Washington state, I’m considering have an out of state relative buy one for me in the mean time