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  • Valmond@lemmy.world
    221·
    19 days ago

    This is just untrue in democracies with transparency, you can look up the (real) numbers yourself, as can economists and journalists.

    In dictatorships you must trust the numbers given to you, so there yeah they’ll lie their teeths off.

    • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee
      123·
      19 days ago

      This is just untrue in democracies with transparency

      We don’t have “democracies with transparency”

      you can look up the (real) numbers yourself

      I can’t. And you can’t. Real numbers are not provided. “you must trust the numbers given to you”

      • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        5·
        18 days ago

        I can’t. And you can’t. Real numbers are not provided. “you must trust the numbers given to you”

        I can if I really want to. Down to the last receipt, excluding someones personal information and stuff like that, but in here all that data is public. Not in a sense that everything besides accounting and other “bigger picture” things would be online, but it’s public information anyways and it has to be accessible. Sure, I would definetly annoy the shit out of some poor secretary (or more likely multiple of them) digging up everything and it would take a long time, but it’s still public.

        • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee
          18·
          18 days ago

          It isn’t public. And it surely isn’t verifiable. “You must trust the numbers given to you”

      • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        22·
        18 days ago

        We don’t have “democracies with transparency

        Spend less time consuming tankie propaganda.

        • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          16 days ago

          I mean we don’t, my government can spend tens of billions on literally nothing and then spend millions more investigating where all that money went. We certainly have democracies but part of what we vote for is who’s raiding the public purse.

          • Oniononon@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            21·
            16 days ago

            Any system more complex than you managing your own wallet is going to hemorrage resources. And even you hemorrage money when you manage your own wallet. Its better than the alternative. There has never been a perfect system and there wont be either.

            • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              16 days ago

              Completely true but I would still appreciate a bit less blatant cronyism, like when X company is paid for product, delivers crap, then is paid again to dispose of the crap they just delivered.