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The woman who actually lives in the house had just moved to Oklahoma City from Maryland with her family about two weeks earlier.
“I keep asking them, ‘who are you? What are you doing here? What’s happening,’” she said. “And they said, ‘we have a warrant for the house, a search warrant.’”
She said they ordered her and her daughters outside into the rain before they could even put on clothes.
“They wanted me to change in front of all of them, in between all of them,” she said. “My husband has not even seen my daughter in her undergarments—her own dad, because it’s respectful. You have her out there, a minor, in her underwear.”
Marisa said the names on the search warrant were not hers or anyone in her family.
“We just moved here from Maryland,” she said. “We’re citizens. That’s what I kept saying. We’re citizens.”
She said the agents didn’t care.
“They were very dismissive, very rough, very careless,” she said. “I kept pleading. I kept telling them we weren’t criminals. They were treating us like criminals. We were here by ourselves. We didn’t do anything.”
Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”
“I told them before they left, I said you took my phone. We have no money. I just moved here,” she said. “I have to feed my children. I’m going to need gas money. I need to be able to get around. Like, how do you just leave me like this? Like an abandoned dog.”
Before they left, Marisa said one of the agents made a comment.
“One of them said, ‘I know it was a little rough this morning,’” she said. “It was so denigrating. That you do all of this to a family, to women, your fellow citizens. And it was a little rough? You literally traumatized me and my daughters for life. We’re going to have to go get help or get over this somehow.”
Now, Marisa said they have, quite literally, nothing.
“I said, ‘when are we going to get our stuff back?’ They said it could be days or it could be months,” she said.
Marisa said she is left with nothing but questions.
I’m actually thinking of cloud storage for this reason. Anyone know a good reliable and affordable cloud provider that’s not US-based, and I can pay for like a year in advance? (End to End Encryption doesn’t matter since I can just do local encryption.)
Amazing that the top comment is this crap spam sock puppet nonsense. Come on this account is 23 hours old. I get not wanting to support us companies, but the flood of brand new accounts posting stupid questions about it is ridiculous.
cloud is ridiculous. just set up some mini servers with friends or family. rsync your stuff with them over wireguard every now and then. The cloud should absolutely never ever be trusted.
If they can get a warrant to steal your shit, they can steal shit from your friends and family if they can show that you have files on their property as well. All this will result in is your family members having all their computers stolen as well.
This is true. But they will have to send people out to get that drive and you will know about it. In the cloud, a government can take that data and the provider is forbidden from telling you.
I know nothing about tech but couldn’t someone wiser than me create the ability to decentralize people’s information. Scattering bits around the world on personal servers. Similar to how the fediverse works. I don’t honestly know shit about this so maybe I’m talking out my ass.
Look at EU alternatives
Nothing is working thru your link.
Don’t store data on other people’s computers. Use encryption locally and store an encrypted backup at a friend’s house, or in a bank safe if you must.
The problem with this is that anywhere you can store a file or place a backup then becomes a legal target for an ICE raid. They get a warrant to steal all your stuff, regardless of where it may be. When they steal your computers, they’ll find records of your system sending files off to an offsite backup somewhere. They can then use that as legal justification to go raid your friend’s house, and they’ll steal not only your backup drive, but all your friend’s computers as well.
The only way this doesn’t work is if the files are stored on the servers of a giant multinational or an offshore cloud provider. ICE isn’t going to be breaking into data centers and physically carting off hard drives. They instead would simply request a copy of the data, and the cloud provider would share it with them.
I think you have GenZ tunnel view on this. I was suggesting to bring physical backup media to a friend’s house :)
Friend and Bank safes would be in the US, subject to the US’s ICE/Gestspo “civil asset forfeiture”. Only foreign cloud storage is safe.
I don’t see why “other people’s computers” is a problem. Encrypt, then upload.
I understood the worry to be about storage devices being stolen from home. In which case it would be safe at a friend’s house. Putting an encryptes backup anywhere online is partially okay, but most people trust their cloud solution software for encryption, which is about as good as sensing your unencrypted data to that company.
Even with encrypted backups the risk is that totalitarian regimes / corporations store data forever. And if your encyption keys ever leak, or the algorithm is broken, you’re fucked in retrospect.
That part is true regardless of where you’re storing your data.
Nah, if you store them offline, you should ideally know when one of your backups has been stolen. Anything ever stored online is forever in limbo.
Or locally encrypt your data and then store it on other people’s computers. Just make sure to never put all your eggs in one basket.
If you’re technically inclined, learn about trusted enclaves on untrusted platforms. You’ll need to know it, if not now, then very soon.
A well placed encrypted backup on two separately located microSD cards (in case mice eat the other), located within a few hundred meters of your actual residence, should be beyond the ability of common goons (ICE, cops, impatient FBI agents) to locate. They’d have to engage in long-term surveillance.
If curious kids find one, it’s still encrypted and you still have the other, and curious kids won’t take your primary data carrier by raiding your house either. You just replace the backup then and put it elsewhere.
Where can I get a 4TB microSD with reasonable read/write speeds?
Even 1 TB is arduous. Don’t back up your movie collection, let the feds have it if they want. Back up your code, correspondence and encryption keys. :)
Proton cloud is a good one.
Added context for the non-tech crowd to explain the downvotes. Proton checks all the boxes, EU based (swiss), good platform that is working towards being a unified google services replacemnt. For most people I do still recommend them, I quite like their software.
But for the socially concious nerd, their CEO put their foot in their mouth on the artist formerly known as twitter late last year, and that damaged their user bases trust in them (no policy changed, they just stated opinions that were very out of touch with their US user base)
There is a lot of nuance to the issue, im glossing over a lot and I feel it gets blown out of proportions on Lemmy.
My NAS encrypts my Backups and transfers them to some hetzner webspace on a server in Sweden. For email and day to day cloud usage I use mailbox.org. They are from Germany and put a focus on privacy and security, yearly payments are no problem.
I would considering moving that data to Germany since they are trying to bypass an anti encryption law in Sweden
I have internxt , very rough compared to others but for long term storage it is good. Foss , encrypted and splitted.
Hetzner has it’s cloud storage boxes and it’s pretty cheap and supports a lot of different backup solutions: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/