Google will want the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8 Pro to be best-sellers, but these phones have another role to play beyond market share.
  • extended update service to 7 years
  • pushing Material UI consistency
  • Tensor G3 chip for AI & machine learning performed locally on device
  • Havald@lemmy.worldEnglish
    475·
    1 year ago

    I just want to change my battery and get a phone for that no people had to die In some poor country.

    Like seriously, what’s the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

    • kirklennon@kbin.social
      324·
      1 year ago

      Like seriously, what’s the percentage of people that run machine learning algorithms on their phone? 0.0000000001%?

      It’s 100%. You use them on your phone all day every day. Your keyboard used machine learning algorithms as you typed your comment to dynamically adjust the size of the tap target of your likely next character and for autocorrect.

      Every single photo taken on a phone is run through a huge amount of ML to create it.

      All of this is to say, however, that this headline is ridiculous. Aside from Material UI, this is basically a description of every iPhone from the last half decade (with a dedicated “neural engine”). Not really a change in the smartphone world.

      • Havald@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        1 year ago

        I need a new phone soon, can’t really wait until the EU regulations force companies to build them with removable batteries. I need to look more into Fairphone, hope that’s decent. Last review I read made me concerned about battery life, I really don’t like charging my phone every day either. Or having to carry a power bank with me.

        I don’t think there’s anything on the market that comes even close to the modularity aria had promised. Moto z had some mods but they dropped that very quickly unfortunately.

        • be_gt@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          My fairphone4 has been really good so far. If battery power is an issue you could just bring one spare but I haven’t needed to do that yet

          • Havald@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            Bringing a spare is a good point. Less of a hassle than a power bank (although still not ideal). Battery life is pretty much the only thing I care about aside from longevity. Fairphone has longevity covered, maybe the review I read just made the battery life seem mich worse than it actually is. I’ll have to look into it some more, thanks

        • Salamendacious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I have to do the power bank thing from time to time and it’s definitely suboptimal. I think I can easily make it to the 9a though or maybe the 8a after some piece cuts. I used to play the “what’s the new hotness” game and it’s nice not being that gullible with my money anymore.

          • Havald@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, for me it always helped to think about what I was actually doing with my phone and I quickly realized that I really have not mich use for the most expensive phones. A camera like I’d get on the new iPhone for example would be nice but that alone isn’t worth paying almost 1k more. And aside from camera I don’t think there’s much difference for the average user when you compare a high end and a low to mid-range phone.

            • Salamendacious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              I agree $1k for a phone seems crazy but if people are willing to spend it, who am I to judge? It is kind of great that midrange phones have become so good.

        • Salamendacious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It was such a cool concept. I really don’t care about how thin my phone is. I’d much rather be able to replace a broken screen easily. I’d love to be able to upgrade my camera or take the camera out and put a little more battery in it. I really hope they revisit the concept someday.

          • eumesmo@lemmings.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            It would be the solution to phone obsolescence. This concept, paired with project treble would allow us to run our phones for as long as possible. Want a screen with more pixels? Just install one. Phone getting behind on specs?Change the cpu or add ram. Want a better camera? Just get a new one. At some point, the chassis would need to be replaced, but even then, you could reuse some of your installed conponents. It would be so awesome.

    • Transient Punk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      Many actions on modern phones use AI. Text to speech and image processing just to name two. I am very excited to not have that information being constantly sent to the cloud for processing.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldEnglish
    162·
    1 year ago

    My big issue with the line has been no microSD slot. I won’t buy a phone with locked memory capacity.

  • Mojojojo1993@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    1 year ago

    What rubbish. It is exactly the same as every other smartphone on the planet. Updates are only new software and even then you could flash a new rom.

    Click bait bullshit

  • rikonium@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    I’m being a non-article-reading heathen here but of those three bullets I don’t think any is new to the smartphone industry - albeit Apple is cagey with support timelines (and probably slows down on what’s fixed versus the current iOS version) but the 5s technically got a iOS 12 patch this year.

    • Salamendacious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      If a seven year update cycle becomes the norm for Android phones that would be revolutionary in my opinion. I have my doubts though.

        • Salamendacious@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Very impressive. $700+ is unfortunately well out of my preferred price range. Especially if the battery issues I just read about are accurate.

          • virtualbriefcase@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            They usually drop in price. They were just selling the 6a for $200 like a month ago, so given a bit of time you can get a good deal on the second-to-latest generation.

  • kftX@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    Is this year’s Tensor an actual in-house chip or just another rebranded shitty Exynos?

    Hats off to Samsung tho, kneecapping the competition 😂

  • Granixo@feddit.clEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    The only thing that i want from Google right now is that they release Android 14.

    • vector_zero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      Meanwhile, I want them to stop releasing shit. IMO Android peaked already, and it seems like every update over the last 5 years has made things slightly worse.

      Have they made improvements? Yes, but each improvement has come bundled with several UI regressions.

      • Granixo@feddit.clEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, and to be honest, the only reason i look up to Android 14 is because of the AV1 codec hardware acceleration requirement.

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
    32·
    1 year ago

    none of those features are current or future requirements of mine. i want user-expandable memory, and useful expansion IO like the headphone jack, microsd and USBc.

    there is not a single ‘feature’ introduced in the last decade that i care about.