I don’t think there’s much of a point in continuing this discussion because you continue to make up excuses for the democratic parties failings.
You don’t seem to understand that I am simply wanting to push the democratic party to be more proactive and progressive rather then reacting to Republicans (frequently nodding along in agreement for a while until finally getting with reality).
I never once claimed the two parties were the same, that’s simply your assumption to my healthy skepticism with either parties company line.
If you think the democrats are squeeky clean, you’re misinformed and are unintentionally helping to erode our democracy.
Calling out prior misdeeds from democrats while fighting for better options is not supporting Republicans and the hive mind bullshit from Democrats is what helped get us here and ensured the Biden administration and it’s failures occurred. They failed (predictably) to prevent this from occurring by refusing to fight for the people. “oh the parlimentsrisn said we can’t do that” “oh woops Marijuana is still schedule 1” “sure the covid era safety net helped raise hundreds of thousands of children from poverty but we can’t be fucked to fight to continue them” “oh no roe v wade is overturned, better vote for us so we can still do fuck all”
Idk man, wake the fuck up, the Republicans are obviously far worse, but if we can’t expect more from our supposed good party, what the fuck do you think is going to happen? Exactly what did, less people voted, voter rights laws backsliding, there is evidence of election tampering by the Republicans (big surprise they always scream the loudest about the shit they’re doing or planning to do) etc etc. Much of this could have been prevented if the democratic party had any fucking backbone to fight for what they claim to believe in.
No, all this happened because of people like you who fracture the democratic position.
The republican side can do no wrong to their voters. They can push for whatever and still get everyone on their side to vote for them.
Meanwhile, people like you need the party to be perfect to vote for them. People like you yell the loudest about how your not happy with the democratic leaders not being perfect so it causes others to also not vote, even though they didn’t look into what actually happened.
You all and your pursuit of a perfect left candidate allowed the right to be facist, because they saw all the in fighting between us and just kept stepping right
They’ve failed to implent policy after policy they promised/campaigned on. Do you ever wonder why? Probably not because you think it’s the lefts fault clearly.
But sure, keep blaimg the left for wanting better, we’ll continue to see how that plays out.
As long as they refuse to make large scale change that the population can see improves their lives, they will continue to see voter apathy for their party and emboldening of the right wing psychos.
Yes. Bernie would have been perfect. Every one sees that.
But your refusal to have anything less than perfect be your representative put us in the hole we are in now.
Nobody is saying the democrats are perfect. Not once have I said that here. But I was willing to compromise to stop the actual facism at our door step. Now it’s run rampant and you are still saying the perfect candidate would have done better
Everyone young wants Bernie. But only having the young vote will never win you an election.
So yes. You and your loud mouth are way more responsible for this that any democrat
I don’t think there’s much of a point in continuing this discussion because you continue to make up excuses for the democratic parties failings.
You don’t seem to understand that I am simply wanting to push the democratic party to be more proactive and progressive rather then reacting to Republicans (frequently nodding along in agreement for a while until finally getting with reality).
I never once claimed the two parties were the same, that’s simply your assumption to my healthy skepticism with either parties company line.
If you think the democrats are squeeky clean, you’re misinformed and are unintentionally helping to erode our democracy.
Calling out prior misdeeds from democrats while fighting for better options is not supporting Republicans and the hive mind bullshit from Democrats is what helped get us here and ensured the Biden administration and it’s failures occurred. They failed (predictably) to prevent this from occurring by refusing to fight for the people. “oh the parlimentsrisn said we can’t do that” “oh woops Marijuana is still schedule 1” “sure the covid era safety net helped raise hundreds of thousands of children from poverty but we can’t be fucked to fight to continue them” “oh no roe v wade is overturned, better vote for us so we can still do fuck all”
Idk man, wake the fuck up, the Republicans are obviously far worse, but if we can’t expect more from our supposed good party, what the fuck do you think is going to happen? Exactly what did, less people voted, voter rights laws backsliding, there is evidence of election tampering by the Republicans (big surprise they always scream the loudest about the shit they’re doing or planning to do) etc etc. Much of this could have been prevented if the democratic party had any fucking backbone to fight for what they claim to believe in.
No, all this happened because of people like you who fracture the democratic position.
The republican side can do no wrong to their voters. They can push for whatever and still get everyone on their side to vote for them.
Meanwhile, people like you need the party to be perfect to vote for them. People like you yell the loudest about how your not happy with the democratic leaders not being perfect so it causes others to also not vote, even though they didn’t look into what actually happened.
You all and your pursuit of a perfect left candidate allowed the right to be facist, because they saw all the in fighting between us and just kept stepping right
You grow the fuck up
Jesus christ.
https://blogs.millersville.edu/thesnapper/2024/11/22/bernie-sanders-has-been-betrayed-by-the-democratic-party/ Inform yourself, the democratic party has specifically killed progressive candidates chances by funding their opponents (including republican candidates)
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked
They’ve failed to implent policy after policy they promised/campaigned on. Do you ever wonder why? Probably not because you think it’s the lefts fault clearly.
Which they love to do instead of admitting their own failings. https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-blames-bernie-sanders-but-not-reason-lost-2016-2020-1
Hell they helped boost trump specifically https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/
But sure, keep blaimg the left for wanting better, we’ll continue to see how that plays out.
As long as they refuse to make large scale change that the population can see improves their lives, they will continue to see voter apathy for their party and emboldening of the right wing psychos.
Yes. Bernie would have been perfect. Every one sees that.
But your refusal to have anything less than perfect be your representative put us in the hole we are in now.
Nobody is saying the democrats are perfect. Not once have I said that here. But I was willing to compromise to stop the actual facism at our door step. Now it’s run rampant and you are still saying the perfect candidate would have done better
Everyone young wants Bernie. But only having the young vote will never win you an election.
So yes. You and your loud mouth are way more responsible for this that any democrat