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    Can’t blame a generation that wasn’t raised on computers as well as you can’t blame a generation that was raised by algothrims. I’m a millennial too, one of the older ones, and I have felt my tech literacy decay over the past ten years as the cancer that is silicon valley has spread and dominated the internet. It is to the point that I feel so trapped when I try to do anything online that becoming passive feels like the only choice if you play their game.

    I have the benefit of remembering what the internet used to be like and what it still has the potential to be in the future, but the youths of today never experienced that. To them the internet is a feeding machine that encourages nay grooms them into becoming passive consumers. I can’t blame someone who literally never got the chance to learn because some tech bro scumbags in America decided that they should abuse their power to turn people into addicts.

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      Shit, I’m millennial software developer who self hosts software as a hobby and I feel tech literacy decay.

      I don’t understand how Microsoft office handles it’s saves, so I don’t want to save shit in the cloud. I don’t want an app for my toaster. I don’t understand how cool things like YouTube revanced and other “app mods” work, and I can barely grasp what “debrid” streams are. A zoomer manages the discord server we started years and years ago, because none of the millennials know how to work the bots. I self host one of the bots, but I don’t know shit about using it lmao.

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        I don’t understand how Microsoft office handles it’s saves

        Poorly. But that’s because of One Drive. You can disable and uninstall it though.

        How YouTube revanced works

        YT revanced isn’t an “app mod”, its a completely separate program which just shows YouTube content. Kinda like how Lemmy sometimes shows reddit or Twitter content.

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          YT revanced isn’t an “app mod”, its a completely separate program which just shows YouTube content.

          That’s straight up untrue. Your claim is so confidently stated and yet so wrong I’m wondering whether a LLM wrote it. To install YT revanced you literally gotta pick an original YouTube apk file for the revanced manager to patch, and then select which mods you wanna apply to it. It really is an “app mod.” Sure, you might end up with two YT apps in your app drawer if you haven’t disabled or uninstalled the stock one, but fundamentally they’re just two copies of the same app but one’s modded.

          Kinda like how Lemmy sometimes shows reddit or Twitter content.

          Wtf are you even talking about??? Revanced pulls directly from YouTube’s site, it’s not like the content is copied over or externally linked???

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        Yeah. I think this is a pretty good point you are making there! Zoomers may not understand the tech language we grew up with, but in turn, we don’t understand the tech language they have grown up with either. It’s kinda like slang. It evolves over time and makes communication between generations awkward haha.

        I think, for me, I feel uncomfortable relying so much on the tech doing a lot of the work for me. There is a loss of control in a sense even though it may make life more convenient in some areas (and not in others). It’s kinda like having to use a dishwasher for the first time and not really understanding how to operate it and then washing dishes by hand still, because that’s what you’re comfortable with.

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      can’t really blame a generation that wasn’t raised on computers

      No. I’m tired of giving them this excuse. Computers have been common place in the workplace for like 2 decades at this point. That’s plenty of time to learn what a monitor is or what a power button looks like or the fact that computers need to be plugged in to work.

      This is also not a defense of Gen Z but I’m a little more forgiving because they were too young to really have to deal with the annoying parts of computers.

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        2 decades? My dude, 2 decades ago it was 2005. Computers have been commonplace close to 40 years now.

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        I dunno man. Depending on the age and person, it can be pretty difficult to get into how computers work. It really isn’t as much of a given as we think it is. I’m sure there are some older people who are just lazy, but I don’t think it is the case for everybody. Some older people don’t use computers unless they have to. They don’t spend time on them in their spare time to get more acquainted with how they work. For many it wasn’t a part of their lives for the first fifty years they spent on this planet. I’m in my mid 30s and I have areas of modern technology where I have just accepted that I can’t and won’t keep up because I simply don’t have the time, motivation or patience for it. I will learn if it is a necessity, but I also have limits to how many new things I can take in at this point while also having to earn money and pay my bills and maybe live a little on the side. So it is with that in mind that I think it is very much appropriate to cut many older people some slack and maybe have a little bit of empathy for where they are coming from.