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Summary
Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump’s promise to crack down on “criminal illegal immigrants,” but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.
Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.
Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.
Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.
I’d feel sorry for the guy but that would be both insincere and incorrect. After all, he got exactly what he voted for.
This is why it’s best not to vote.
EDIT: Sorry this wasn’t meant to be a novel. If I had more time it would have been shorter.
I understand not feeling bad for THE GUY. But you should absolutely feel bad for his wife. Moral values should not be conditional. I could have an undocumented immigrant cus me out and say “TRUMP IS AWESOME” and I’d still not want that guy to be deported for no reason. I know its a slightly satisfying “you got what was coming to you”. But being leftist in any sense means staying true to your convictions and not falling for this type of reactionary response no matter how satisfying it is.
I’ve used this as an example before.
I want even KKK members to get free healthcare in the US. Because as much as I hate KKK members my leftist principles tell me that right wing reactionary ideas thrive in poor material conditions. Conditions on these fundamental leftist principles will not stand. The “got what was coming to them” response is absolutely a reactionary idea. These are conditions of revenge and not conditions of justice. They have no place in left wing principles.
You can absolutely enjoy the slight sense of irony and satisfaction from this snippet. But, at the end of the day, you’re not saying anything different then “let’s deport these immigrants because X” just like the right is. Its the same as saying “these brown people deserve to be treated badly because they didn’t vote for Harris”. It’s insane reactionary ideas masking itself as leftism.
You have every right (see what I did there?) to feel that way, but feeling some degree of comfort and karma that bad people also get bad things happen to them instead of bad things just being limited to the victims of capitalism, is just a simple sensorial reaction to the reality of the world and not in any way some sort of “anti-left” idea. In fact, wishing the best wishes to the boot that’s stomping on you is probably the worst things to do, since it teaches conformity in the structure of the class system. To fight the imbalance of power you have to want to fight, and historically speaking spite is among the best motivators there ever is.
Also lol, good work trying to equate me with those right-wing KKK nutjobs! Yeah! Because there is literally no difference between wishful thinking, and actually doing material damage to someone because of your Trump dogma! Right?
Geez, what tiktok does to media literacy these days…
But you do you. I’ll continue to cry a crocodile tear for the guy.
(Yes, the wife deserves a real tear, but that does not mean I can’t cry a fake one for free)
If you think the “boot” is a Trump voter then you missed the point entirely. I don’t know what else to say. And simplifying them into “bad people” like the world is a comic book movie is anti left and anti materialist thought.
I also didn’t equate you with the KKK. I used what you would call an analogy to explain my perspective. An analogy in which I wasn’t even comparing you with the KKK. In that analogy you would have been someone that laughed as a KKK member was denied healthcare.
If you couldn’t even get that clear point of my comment then you should probably go back and read it with a fraction of charity. Because you kind of just responded with nonsense and gave no thought into the point I was actually making. One that wasn’t even very critical of you. I admitted myself that that “karma” is satisfying. But there is a difference between our thoughts and our material actions. That where dialects is usedul in understanding what is reactionary thought is and where it leads to.
It’s more like a guilty pleasure when you have no control over the situation anymore to see the people who chose to fuck it up suffer the most consequences. When given the chance, I would never let something like this happen, but since it happened outside of my control I think it’s fair to bask in the irony
Sure. But maybe in your head for a minute. Saying your position is “haha that stupid immigrant and her husband got what was coming to them” is pretty gross imo.