Look, maybe it’s the autism acting up again but I legitimately don’t see it. Can you help me see where it turned to lefties before your comment? The OP is about Elon, a right wing figure, with the narcissist’s prayer excusing his behavior. Very clearly a criticism of a specific right winger.
Then this comment:
“Trump won’t even be that bad, you LIBERALS are just fearmongering!” God. It’s going to be a long [insert period of time here]
I read that as a pseudoquote of a hypothetical right wing voter. Complete with the way they spew “LIBERAL.” “Trump won’t be that bad” isn’t a common lefty position I’ve seen, most of us voted against our own conscience specifically to keep Trump out.
Then the dino comic that, arguably, could be considered a depiction of your hypothetical lefties. But with the context of the comment it replied to I interpreted it more as a Leopards Ate My Face depiction of Republican voters voting against their own interests.
Then you entered with what appeared to me to be a hard turn towards blaming the far left for what’s happening on the right.
I think the difference in my interpretation is that many of the lefty people commenting about the utter failure of the Democratic party are particularly scornful of “liberals” to the point where they use the term “libs”. I’ve been told being a liberal makes me both transphobic and in support of Palestinian genocide. These same people said they were not voting because they would rather trump win than support Democrats. And they identify as leftist - some flavor of socialist, communist, anarchist, Other, or combination thereof, and they would rather trump win. Which he did, to their great and ignorant loss.
IMO, you shouldn’t be so quick to apply that particular extreme version of a lefty to everyone who criticizes the Democratic Party. That’s a minority you’re describing. Most lefties voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. Unless you want to dig into history to lobby the same criticism at Clinton supporters who voted for McCain. There’s always people who don’t make sense who do stuff like that. Plus many people who were Bernie supporters in 2016 were never really lefties to begin with. I’m not saying that as a “no true Scotsman” thing, just that Bernie attracted a wider range of people fed up with the establishment and some of them would not have self-identified as a leftist.
It’s quite prejudiced to just blanket assume everyone to your left is this extreme version you’ve concocted. And before you say you don’t do that, remember how aggressive you were to me when I gave you zero indication that I fell into your little lefty box.
It’s been almost a year-long fight with “lefties” who came out of lemmy.ml and other places to explain to those of us who thought we were lefties that no, we weren’t lefties and in fact we were horrible people who should be ashamed of ever supporting Democrats. (the logical conclusion being that trump would win this election did not bother them at all.)
I appreciate it if you didn’t see all that, but if you’d like to scroll through some of the more popular posts on politics or politicalmemes or progressivepolitics or usaauthoritarianism or some other communities like that, you’ll see it’s not a rare event, it’s happened a lot. There are some posts that are very much specifically about that.
It’s partly to do with the plastic nature of the term “lefty” and how much some “on the left” were gatekeeping it as well as working diligently to damage the Democratic party’s chances in November. It’s ridiculous to begin with and the larger upshot is that we now have trump, so they got their wish. Everything horrible that happens under trump is something they fully wanted to happen because they did not support Harris or any other Democrat due to their myopic views of party politics which they would not be swayed from for any reasons. They’re still around, but only a couple of die-hards, the vast majority have not posted since the election which, frankly, is also in line with a coordinated campaign to cause division, although they’d prefer not to see that either.
Look, maybe it’s the autism acting up again but I legitimately don’t see it. Can you help me see where it turned to lefties before your comment? The OP is about Elon, a right wing figure, with the narcissist’s prayer excusing his behavior. Very clearly a criticism of a specific right winger.
Then this comment:
I read that as a pseudoquote of a hypothetical right wing voter. Complete with the way they spew “LIBERAL.” “Trump won’t be that bad” isn’t a common lefty position I’ve seen, most of us voted against our own conscience specifically to keep Trump out.
Then the dino comic that, arguably, could be considered a depiction of your hypothetical lefties. But with the context of the comment it replied to I interpreted it more as a Leopards Ate My Face depiction of Republican voters voting against their own interests.
Then you entered with what appeared to me to be a hard turn towards blaming the far left for what’s happening on the right.
I think the difference in my interpretation is that many of the lefty people commenting about the utter failure of the Democratic party are particularly scornful of “liberals” to the point where they use the term “libs”. I’ve been told being a liberal makes me both transphobic and in support of Palestinian genocide. These same people said they were not voting because they would rather trump win than support Democrats. And they identify as leftist - some flavor of socialist, communist, anarchist, Other, or combination thereof, and they would rather trump win. Which he did, to their great and ignorant loss.
IMO, you shouldn’t be so quick to apply that particular extreme version of a lefty to everyone who criticizes the Democratic Party. That’s a minority you’re describing. Most lefties voted for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. Unless you want to dig into history to lobby the same criticism at Clinton supporters who voted for McCain. There’s always people who don’t make sense who do stuff like that. Plus many people who were Bernie supporters in 2016 were never really lefties to begin with. I’m not saying that as a “no true Scotsman” thing, just that Bernie attracted a wider range of people fed up with the establishment and some of them would not have self-identified as a leftist.
It’s quite prejudiced to just blanket assume everyone to your left is this extreme version you’ve concocted. And before you say you don’t do that, remember how aggressive you were to me when I gave you zero indication that I fell into your little lefty box.
It’s been almost a year-long fight with “lefties” who came out of lemmy.ml and other places to explain to those of us who thought we were lefties that no, we weren’t lefties and in fact we were horrible people who should be ashamed of ever supporting Democrats. (the logical conclusion being that trump would win this election did not bother them at all.)
I appreciate it if you didn’t see all that, but if you’d like to scroll through some of the more popular posts on politics or politicalmemes or progressivepolitics or usaauthoritarianism or some other communities like that, you’ll see it’s not a rare event, it’s happened a lot. There are some posts that are very much specifically about that.
It’s partly to do with the plastic nature of the term “lefty” and how much some “on the left” were gatekeeping it as well as working diligently to damage the Democratic party’s chances in November. It’s ridiculous to begin with and the larger upshot is that we now have trump, so they got their wish. Everything horrible that happens under trump is something they fully wanted to happen because they did not support Harris or any other Democrat due to their myopic views of party politics which they would not be swayed from for any reasons. They’re still around, but only a couple of die-hards, the vast majority have not posted since the election which, frankly, is also in line with a coordinated campaign to cause division, although they’d prefer not to see that either.