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  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    No nation has “free and open internet” in reality. Some are just more open about their biases while others try to obfuscate how they censor.

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        7 months ago

        Sure, and in the US companies like Google heavily distort search algorithms to make it so that the vast majority of people see only what’s already approved.

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          7 months ago

          So you don’t like that your point was disproven and are now comparing corporate manipulation of their own services to governmental control of the entire internet?

          Get real.

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            7 months ago

            What did you “disprove?” It’s absolutelty comparable to acknowledge that no matter where you are, the internet is deiberately censored and distorted to curate a narrative, regardless of if its corporate owned or government owned.

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              7 months ago

              Are you serious? Read the thread again.

              Just because you either refuse to accept, or fail to comprehend the difference between a corporation manipulating an elective platform and a government maintaining complete control over anything transmitted over the internet, does not mean you are correct.

              It means you’re stubborn. Lol

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          7 months ago

          I’ve been to China. VPN access requires jumping through insane hoops and disguising your traffic as different traffic. Tor is blocked. Most commercial VPNs are IP blocked. HTTPS proxy or HTTP proxy over SSH tunnel gets blocked very quickly due to traffic analysis.

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            7 months ago

            You’re also not, presumably, a Chinese citizen, who know better how their own internet works. Why would you immediately jump to doing what you know?

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        7 months ago

        The US government literally just effectively banned a social network through government mandate.

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            7 months ago

            US users make up about 17% of TikToc’s global user base. Selling their addictive algorithm to keep a small number of users was never going to happen.

            And what hand waving? It was banned because the US government could not control the flow of information to its own people like it can with all the other US corporate/state owned media. The data collection nonsense is just that. If they cared they could have regulated data collection across the board. Foreign countries abide by host countries laws all the time, see GDPR and similar. But that would have cut into the profits of other corporate/state controlled media outlets like Meta and Google.