• SolDaMan@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hello All, First time poster here. I would just like to say that i tried signing up for beehaw.org but they have some kind of purity test that reminds me of Reddit. Don’t ever sign up for beehaw, that is going to be one hell of a drama filled instance.

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      1 year ago

      Ironically all of the drama and complaining seems to be coming from instances outside of Beehaw, being dramatic and complaining about Beehaw. The content there is actually good.

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        1 year ago

        Really it’s just drama caused by the platform not maturing yet. Beehaw’s reasons behind defederating from large instances like lemmy.world are valid, but it’s not like other instances made them do it. It’s a choice they made to be able to create the space they want in lieu of proper mod tools. Hope they realise it won’t be an overnight fix, and the longer they stick to their guns the greater the risk of their communities fizzling out, which would be a shame as I agree they are some of the best.

      • TheCookieButter@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I wrote 2 short paragraphs for the Beehaw entry and a week later was denied. By that point I was already on Lemmy.World.

        I really don’t know what else they wanted me to say to be honest. I’d be interested in seeing some accepted applications but seems excessive.

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            1 year ago

            Same for me. The only thing beehaw now has that interests me is the technology community, which seems fairly active. Other than that it died for me there. For what? Because they couldn’t deal with a few trolls? And they want their own walled garden for site applications?

      • JujuT@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Exactly! Or a waitlist like lemmy.ml. There’s probably going to be some issues with so many people in this instance, but it’s better than an echo chamber.

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      1 year ago

      You are correct and Lemmy.World and others will experience growing pains and will have their own share of issues but the positive of this is that more users means more content.

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      1 year ago

      You are correct, but it at least shows that we are attracting more users (albeit, that doesn’t mean quality).

      I believe its a positive thing though, as it shows that the “normies” are seriously considering alternatives; outside of us niche, nerds here for the tech and the anti-corpo mindset.

      • Thesongthatneverends@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I am decidedly not a niche nerd here for tech reasons. I just got pretty fed up with Reddit and it’s ridiculousness. I’m a 40 year old mom just here to cruise around the internet and find interesting things. So you are correct - the “normies” are starting to look for alternatives!

      • go_spurs_go@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Just showed up here. We’ll see how long I stay, but hoping this will be my social media fix each morning. If there are enough folks who feel the same, it will be.

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          1 year ago

          I’ve been using it for about a week now, and it already is.

          Of course, there’s a handful of subreddits that I miss and feel the urge to go back to every now and then, but I realize that there is enough content on Lemmy to satisfy me during my coffee breaks. And it’s enough to keep me from going back.

      • MicroWave@lemmy.worldOP
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        1 year ago

        Well said. A month ago, I couldn’t even imagine leaving reddit because there was hardly a viable alternative.

  • SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net
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    1 year ago

    That’s great and imma let you finish but remember that decentralization is strength on the fediverse. Join or create other instances, join or create communities on other instances, thats our strength.

    On the fediverse, instances come and go. I’ve seen big instances go down either permanently or temporarily, and ive also seen big communities decide they’re turning off federation. The only way to be safe from that is to decentralize, so if something happens there’s still something worth doing on the fediverse.

    Besides that though, congratulations lemmy.world, I love to see the thrediverse Renaissance we’re in, and nothing but love for the folks running this instance and the folks participating on it.

  • TeaHands@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I joined world because it was the little one, with like 100 active users according to the stats on the signup page. Hmph.

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      1 year ago

      I joined lemmy.world on June 7th before it started to blow up. Crazy how much it has changed in 19 days.

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        The idea was to pick a smaller one to spread the load around and stop any one instance (at the time it looked like probably Beehaw or .ml) getting so big it became a “default” and thus accidentally centralising things and defeating the whole purpose of being here.

        I guess a lot of people had the same idea at roughly the same time as me though lol, and now we’re stuck with some serious unforseen federation issues due to sheer size. Therewasanattempt.

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          I think I read about future plans for being able to move an account to a different instance? I don’t know if that’s a possibility but I would be willing to move to keep things spread out, or create a new account if it was necessary. I know a lot of people wouldn’t want that hassle but I’m glad to have a forum alternative to reddit and probably enough people feel that way to help make this work well into the future.

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    1 year ago

    It’s awesome to see the growth, but as a small question, why don’t all the instances upgrade to version 0.18? Maybe that version isn’t stable enough?

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      1 year ago

      0.18 removed checks and balances to limit bot signups. lemmy.world won’t upgrade until this is in place.

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        Yep, so now I need to put up with Jerboa whining at me every time I log in. Just the latest in what’s likely to be a long line of teething problems. It’s really unfortunate that the same guy is one of the primary devs of both the Lemmy server and the android client, as it allows him to use one to put pressure on the other. He could E.G. make it so Jerboa refuses to connect to any instance that refuses to update rather than just displaying an annoying dialog like it currently does.

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      1 year ago

      To clarify the vague “checks and balances” statement that you were given, it was the captcha feature. It will be added back in 0.18.1

    • spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 year ago

      I kind of feel we’re riding the sweet spot on size right now. Seems like a solid amount of content but we’ve not had so many new users that there’s been any sudden cultural shift.

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      1 year ago

      Probably a couple hundred dedicated posters. So many 196 memes on my feed and I don’t even know what 196 stands for.

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        196 is the apartment of awesome!

        Welcome to the party!

        Share something while you’re here it’s the rule.

        We’ve got Blahaj, memes, LGBTQ+, and no tankies.

        We recently had to change venue due to reddit shenanigans, but the party don’t stop until it all stops

  • Negative_Pair_5694@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Also lemmy.world is extremely slow in pushing out messages to other instances, if at all. So leading the pack is not necessarily the best thing until you figure out scaling.

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      Yeah, they should really consider not accepting new users until that is figured out, honestly. There are plenty of servers out there that people can join at this point. Too much centralization in a decentralized system for my liking regardless of instance scaling.

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      Yeah, I’ve been missing a ton of comment replies from lemmy.world and it’s frustrating. I am wondering if it’s because they’re still on 0.17.4 instead of 0.18.

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        Yeah I think that’s the main issue. Hopefully 18.1 can be released soon so they can upgrade too.

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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    Good time to appreciate the lack of dominant centrality here compared to mastodon.

    Mastodon’s flagship instance run by the BDFL, mastodon.social, has ~10 times the monthly active users of the next biggest instance.

    Here, there isn’t really a flagship instance, as the devs don’t want their instance to be anything more than the one they happen to run, and it’s not the biggest, and the biggest is independent of the lemmy dev team and isn’t even that much bigger than the others.

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      That might also be a response to what users were asking for. Signing up for a server confused the shit out of everyone. It was to the point where Mastodon’s confusing onboarding process was frequently being covered by major media outlets across the globe.

      Instead of continuing to iterate on sever selection experience, they just started to say “fuck it” and started dumping everyone into .social.

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        Which is the only way they’re ever going to work. It’s a major barrier to sign ups. If the fediverse is actually going to take off one of the Lemmy sites will have to become the dominant one

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          If the tools for discovering and subscribing to communities could be improved so it becomes dead easy to subscribe to communities on any instance from any instance, that might not need to happen.

          Right now the process of having to search for each community and subscribe is too clunky. And if someone posts a link to another community it often comes up in a format that takes you to the other instance, where you have no account so can’t subscribe. We need a way to share links to other communities that incorporates an easy “subscribe” button that talks to your own instance.

          It would be nice to have some index or search result page that lists communities on all instances, with a subscribe button next to each.

          If these things can be smoothed out, it won’t matter too much which instance you have your account on, so that will be less of an obstacle to new users.

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            Lemmyverse.net does that really well, I think. At the top you can click the house icon and put in your instance, then whatever community you search for or find by scrolling through the list, you can just click on and subscribe

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              Yes, that is good, though there seems to be a bug in version 0.18 which means that when you click through the Subscribe button doesn’t show up (just the word “Subscribe” where it should be), so you end up having to search for the community anyway to subscribe. Once that bug is fixed though it will be nice and convenient.

              Edit: I found another workaround: If when you first click through to the community the Subscribe button isn’t shown (for me it just shows the word “Subscribe” but it’s not a button), then change the “Hot/Active/New/etc.” dropdown to a different value. This refreshes the page and the Subscribe button appears.

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      1 year ago

      Probably a decent number of them like me where when I signed up there back then it was basically just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml to pick from. Now that there are other options I created accounts on a couple other instances for redundancy (plus at the time lemmy.ml was buckling under the load) as well as having content and moderation rules I liked better. I’d bet a large number of those inactive accounts are actually active on lemmy, just on different instances.

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      What counts as an active user? Voting? Commenting? Posting?

      Submitting a comment or post. AFAIK upvoting/downvoting doesn’t count, at least for Lemmy’s numbers.

      Kbin is looser with the definition, I think they even count accounts that simply vote among active users.