To clarify, the pictured poster Caroline Kwan is an ally, not a TERF. The TERFs referred to in the title are the ones ‘protecting a very specific idea of what a woman is’

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    Your first sentence called me angry. I was responding that I don’t hate you or feel any other emotion to you (such as anger). Because you said I was angry and you were using the word hateful and appear to project a bit. So again, I feel :| about you. Me: 😐

    You call them the men’s NBA. That’s pretty clear as we both have referenced it as such. Here I am saying it in my second comment to you:

    What you MEANT was whether Britney should change to the men’s division of the NBA.

    Wow, it wasn’t accidental misogyny then, huh? Like had you known, you would’ve just done it the same anyway. That’s why you lack remorse and are trying to make this combative and paint me in a negative light - it’s not about women’s rights, it’s about your ego and looking like you’re so smart on these issues you’re above criticism. Cool. I’m sorry I said you were doing it on accident? Like go back and read the comment chain - you’re way out of line here if you actually care about women.

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      You show me a major sport news source that calls them “the men’s NBA.”

      Because I can’t find one.

      This is sounding like you’re just making something up in order to call someone a misogynist.

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        Well, the thing is, find me an article proposing a player move from one division to the other as you were doing, first.

        You said Britney should join the NBA. She’s already in the NBA. See how stupid that sounds?

        You’re doing a good job calling yourself out as a misogynist at this point.

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          No. I don’t see how stupid it sounds since everyone, except maybe you, knew what I was talking about. The men’s division is simply called the NBA everywhere I look. I can’t help that it’s both the entire league’s name and just the name of the men’s league as well.

          Basically you’re criticizing me for not using a term that no one, save maybe you, uses.

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              Again, that is the name of the men’s league. That is not my fault, it’s theirs. It’s not anti-feminism to use the proper names of things even if those names are sexist.

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                Yes, it is. That’s why we changed verbiage like fireman to firefighter. Because it’s sexist. And it was sexist BEFORE people were asked to change the verbiage. That’s how systemic sexism works - it’s all sexist and you must be the radical change demanding progress. That you want to be a status quo limp dick is on you.

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                  Again- that is the name of the league. That is not my fault.

                  It’s also not my fault that the women’s league of the PGA is the LPGA and the men’s league is the PGA.

                  And by your logic, every single person, male or female, who calls the men’s league of the NBA “the NBA” is a sexist.

                  Incidentally, this includes Brittney Griner.

                  We earn about 250 times less than NBA players and have a hard cap on our salaries. In the WNBA that year I made around $220,000. Overseas, I earned a million plus. That pay gap is why I was in Russia in the first place.

                  ― Brittney Griner, Coming Home

                  Wow, Brittney Griner really hates women, doesn’t she?

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                    Sure, that is a sexist use of the term even when women use it. This is Feminism 101. Eg “Just Pearly Things” espouses anti-feminist rhetoric despite being a woman herself.

                    Again, the greater criticism is systemic sexism in sports including the Olympics and NBA. If you are opposed to this (obviously you aren’t), then you would emphasize gender equity in terminology regarding the NBA.

                    Whether others do it too, fails to disprove my criticism because that IS my point - pervasive sexism in sports. Including with you as an individual.

                    Your ego isn’t relevant here. Like who cares about if yet another random person on a forum is a boring misogynist who cant understand even basic Feminist theory? That’s like all of you. That’s expected. My point is to be someone who disrupts that. That you are part of the status quo is fine and expected. Keep holding onto calling it the NBA and pretending you care about women.