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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago

Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 days ago
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  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    Your position is Russian isn’t imperial or fascist?

    Yes. Previously:

    Russia, if given its druthers, would be imperialist, but since it presently doesn’t, it presently isn’t. Putin tried to join NATO once, to join the imperialist club, but that was rejected, because the US wanted Russia Balkanized & plundered instead. Russia has figured out it’s better off allying with Global South countries than attempting imperialist adventures upon them. And this war has accelerated that allyship.

    Previously:

    It’s not like there are no fascists in Russia. There’s Aleksandr Dugin (who people keep absurdly claiming is Putin’s right-hand man), and there was Western liberal darling Alexei Navalny.

    your so-called “imperial core”

    The term is hardly mine and hardly new. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imperial_core

    is more fascist and/or imperial that we should ignore Russia’s?

    It is, though that doesn’t mean we should altogether ignore Russia’s faults; it too is a capitalist state, a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Russia isn’t anti-imperialist by ideology but by circumstance.

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      It sounds a lot like you agree the conflict isn’t about good vs evil.

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        Sure, “good vs evil” is the stuff of superhero movies and corporate media.

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