The joke’s on them. I’ve been gone from facebook for 10 years lol
Yet another reason to avoid the US as a tourist. Looks like hotels and airlines did not bribe Trump sufficiently.
Seriously, this is so stupid. I’m never setting foot in US soil ever again.
What if we Holy Roman Empire and the feds just become a figurehead element?
Yet another reason to avoid
the USsocial media as atouristconscious being.Lemmy is social media
Lemmy is just a malagasi fish-basket hand-weaving forum for enthusiasts though.
Not yet rotten by algorithmic rot, I think as well. I see quite lovely comment sections and doesn’t feel infested with bots.
Could be wrong though, if anyone has any insight please provide!
Tbh the fundamentally fragmented, federated model the fediverse uses as a core design element does seem like it’d be far harder to centralize and comprehensively corrupt.
Definitely agreed with that, which is why I like it so far but am just worried or hold back. Hope there is going to be more activity on the whole system.
I see it as a win-win. I only have to open the app for a bit while on the loo. I don’t give a damn about hemorrhoids, this is my shitposting time!
Pre-sleep bedtime screentime is now reserved for Balatro (likely equally terrible to social media feed) or light reading (probably miles above those, but pales in comparison to paperback).
also less potential for AI slop too, reddit has been infested with so much bot, AI posts.
Wish there was far more clarity for any platform to see that. The dead internet theory isn’t a wild concept anymore.
Forums are social media now
o rly?
The US are really working hard to get prohibition, 30’s great depression, and McCarthyism all at once.
Some other things from the 30s, too.
The snazzy European uniforms?
Speed run
People are already boycotting the us, they don’t need another reason.
Tourism is only down 30% or so. So maybe they do need more reasons.
I can’t believe it’s so little. Do they not know what’s happening here?
People are into sunk costs and book well in advance. A lot of that 30% is no-money-back cancellations.
Wait until you see next year.
I personally know Canadians who are still going back to the Untied States for half the year and I’m confused as to how they’re not deeply ashamed. Do they not know? Can they really be that oblivious?
Their right wing is trying to crib some (not all) notes from Trump, so I’d imagine those Canadians are the ones who think what Trump is doing is fine.
FAFO
Is this 30% down in foreign tourist (like people crossing border with the intention of a tourist visit) or 30% down in tourist industry revenue?
If it’s revenue that’s huge. Because a lot of tourism is just Americans going to tourist destinations. Though I’m sure some of that drop is coming from Americans also not being able to afford vacations.
If it’s 30% down of actual foreign tourist travel that’s less than I’d expect too. But still beyond devastating to the tourist industry. Between that and the explosion of online gambling, I know Vegas is hurting so much right now.
🤦🏻♀️ What about the people who don’t use social media? Or have used social media for less than 5 years?
Or people who disclose a suspiciously wholesome 5 years of social media use? Or use social media platforms that allow backdated posts - how well are those going to be scrutinised?
Why am I even asking? This is all so stupid. People only want to travel to places where they won’t be immediately grilled on what they think of the dictator. (…Out of curiosity, what’s the process like for North Korea? Strictly for comparison.)
I’m pretty sure the only posts I’ve put on Facebook in the past five years are all a version of, “Hey, I’m just checking in so y’all know I’m still alive.” I haven’t updated my personal information on there in about a decade.
If they find out, out the door you go.
Perfect fit
Wow. Even China doesn’t do that.
edit Might be that they don’t need to get it from you
Ikr? Yet people are so afraid to visit China by contrast…
(Not that I blame theme)
Lest we forget the Michaels.
Between China and the US I’d currently be less worried about visiting China. And I’m a white dude who has bashed the CCP online plenty.
china cares more about money, they do suppress news about thier country often to not scare away tourists.
None of you better come here. I’m not saying this because I don’t want you here, I’m saying it because we are literally on fire right now. We have a lot of finding out to do.
Check under your couch for Russians. Or Venezuelans. Or is it Chinese? Whatever it is, it’s certainly not a home-made problem.
Dear Trump administration… I’ve already decided never to visit the US, you don’t have to sell it to me.
“In addition to social media histories, Customs and Border Protection would add other new data collection fields, including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the addresses and names of family members, the notice reads.”
Wtf I was planning to visit NYC but this is crazy man.
sounds like they want to feed it into AI and other survellience tech like palintir.
Ok so if I have to travel to the US for work, I will now require my employer to give me a burner phone with a burner number.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
If you can’t prove Social Media history, you don’t get in, they arrest you, and deport you without due process to a life sentence in an El Salvador torture prison where you’ll never be heard from again.
Just tell your employer you’re not going.
It depends on their relationship with the social media companies. There’s a good chance companies like Meta have already given the authorities a lot of data on their users. US law enforcement might already know about some of your accounts based on your identity, and then claiming you have none might not work well.
Does this hold true if you don’t use any meta apps? Or maybe no meta apps except WhatsApp or something which is not a public discourse medium anyway?
Have you heard about ‘age verification’ to ‘protect the children’? You too will be age verified. They will know all your accounts. That’s the whole point of age verification. It is to eliminate anonymity.
I am well aware of the bullshit that the politicians are using abused kids to push through.
Every app that asks for my face I either don’t sign up or turn on the VPN.
Although the airport takes a face scan now so maybe it’s a moot point
Only if you actually use it.
Yes, only if you actually use it. But the question was: How will they prove that I have any social media history? the premise being that one can deny the existence of any history while actually using social media. Age verification will make this increasingly difficult and risky. If you use social media and deny it and they can prove you lied about using it, there will be consequences.
My employer issues us with a wiped laptop that we can restore from cloud storage over our VPN once we’re in-country. Before we return, we back it up and scrub it again. When I go to the US, I always bring a low-functioning burner phone as well.
How will they prove that I have any social media history?
Hard to say what the US government knows, or admits to knowing, about your social media usage. I almost completely stopped using social media a few years ago, except for Lemmy, and overwrote all my posts with lorem ipsum, as well as never having accessed it before that without using a VPN and doing some other obfuscation, so it’d take some effort to associate me with anything but some boring Facebook and LinkedIn updates I maintain so that certain people can still get in touch with me.
Just tell them you were born yesterday
If it’s a US based company, the NSA has all of your web traffic to the site.
Facial recognition software.
Did you not see the group of tech billionaires behind Trump when he was sworn in?
No, I know they were there, but I didn’t watch the event as I had better things to do with my time.
Yeah. But that answers the question you posted about how they will know if you have social media or not. That was my point. Not whether you literally watched it or not.
You already need to provide all this for a work visa.
Chill bro, we didn’t need another reason not to visit. We got it.
You think it’s going to stop there? US citizens will soon have to do the same, or be on the no fly list.
Those lazy fucks, they’ve already had those data for years!
I will stop flying if it comes to that
Luckily you guys have land borders. Unluckily they might start patrolling them for people escaping too.
Jokes on them. I dont use social media. Will they deny me because i dont?
I dont use social media.
…on a social media…
Let them prove it.
Probably, or at least a lengthy interrogation
I don’t know why anyone is still visiting the Untied States but I hope this deters them
funny they dont report in the news how the red areas that are dependant on tourism is actually doing. the gop dont want alarm thier own supporters how bad the situation is, just like they are reporting the news, that trump is using the tariff money to pay off the farmers right now.
More realistically: tourists will just stop coming here.
Maybe that’s the intent?
I mean it genuinely is, seems like others are still in denial and not getting the message.
European: Haha, yeah I hate foreigners too! Now, onto our vacation in the Florida Keys-
Trump: No, you. I meant you. Get out.
He’s getting his buddies those covid-era interest rates, one way or another. Our sacrifices are ones he’s willing to make.
Pages 732 and 736 of project 2025 (50% complete already btw) outline the “suffolk banking system” that they’re forcing.
Combine SCOTUS ruling on the 14th amendment in summer of 26 and you can start to see the narrative of canceled midterms. Dude jerks off to the thought of surpressing riots
