When it has been demonstrated over and over again, how little they think of anyone beneath them.
They are as human as anyone else. We should be cognizant of that. They are human beings within a human system. Move beyond anger and hate, and ask what must be done to end suffering and injustice.
For all the quips about guillotines, the first fix needs to be removing their excess wealth, not their heads.
If given a chance they will kill. To obtain that level of wealth one generally has to have a sociopathic level of lack of empathy. Maybe not all are like Trump and itching to blow people up and put people to death. A lot are probably less actively bloodthirsty (thankfully) but at the same time have no issue taking away your health insurance, your income, your housing, etc if it impacts their bottom line even though they already have enough resources to last 100,000,000 lifetimes in extreme excess.
“Oh but if they let these things change they would lose their wealth” exactly - when it comes down to it, they would rather leave you to die than risk losing their obscene wealth. So this is violence, and therefore violence is an appropriate response, especially when the state continually and repeatedly fails over decades (arguably from its inception) to rein them in.
Because we are surrounded by the media that the rich owns that propagandizes us to put the rich on a pedestal.
Because they’re cucks
I think most people are incapable of understanding just how much damage the rich do to the working class on a regular basis.
The rich kill more people every year, through business and political decisions, than any terrorist group or military. Often by being the puppet masters of those terrorist groups and militaries.
The rich are humans, that’s just fact. However, people need to wake the fuck up and see the richest and most powerful in the world fundamentally lack humanity. They are fundamentally isolated from human beings through their wealth and influence.
Maybe bc they are human?
I personally am skeptical
The rich people are almost all psychopaths and probably got that way because of the way wealth warps people’s minds.
They are human.
Humans are just like that.
yep. pretty much everyone who screams about how much they hate the rich… would act exactly the same way if they were rich.
human beings act in their own self interest and that of their tribe.
Also, kinda hard for me to imagine eating a god. Just…ew.
Depends on your religion, I guess. The Flying Spaghetti Monster seems pretty edible.
From personal experience from people that I know who love to defend the wealthy they believe that if we defend the wealthy and give them everything that they want eventually we will give us something back as well and we will enjoy a better life. Somehow?
To try to understand someone is not the same as respecting them. One can try to understand one’s enemy to better fight them.
In every era, the ideas that rule are the ideas of the rulers.
This point is expansively detail in capital and ideology by Piketty
Lemmy is such a weird site. Almost every thread I’ll read the most terrible dehumanizing shit said about working class people for just existing in a conservative U.S. state, but a thread asking why the rich are idolized every negative comment appears to have upvoted responses calling to recognize the humanity in everyone.
Weird.
Really depends on the instance. Most lemmy.world subs are cesspools. Hexbear and the like tend to be much better overall.
Hexbear remains winning
Boot lickers. Just boot lickers. Hoping to become one of them one day.
Everyone human is human but psychopathy seems to favor wealth gain. But like woz would be one of the richest people in the world if he had not shared his apple stock with employees. Hes still rich though and a nice guy. His generosity though is why he is a millionaire and not a billionaire.
True.
Wealth filters psychopathy upward and you need to be at least little asshole to succeed in competition, but I think the broader influence is all the shit talk about deadbeats and freeloaders, that in long term dehumanizes the poor and creates notions that wealthy are better breed and there’s nothing wrong, if the unfortunate die in the gutter. If they can’t support themselves, maybe that’s for the best. You can clearly see this shift even in many people that were once considered to be leftists.
Some kind of “Stanford experiment” kind of effect.
Well, they are in fact human. Trying to understand how they got the way they are is the first step to trying to not let more of them happen. That said, the rotten apple is still an apple. But in the end, I am still going to throw it away.
They are not in fact human in the ways that matter. Their organs are compatible.
Those who would commit atrocity use dehumanizing language to justify horrible things. Let’s leave that to the fascist of the world. We don’t have to act as if a person isn’t human to recognize their evil. Humans are capable of great love and great evil. Avoiding dehumanizing someone is not forgiving them for the terrible things they have done. Why do you need to view something as not human to recognize it’s evil? That, honestly worries me. We can serve justice to these terrible people and still call them human.
It’s not an atrocity if they mean to oppress you I am describing their behavior and choices and those who commit commit atrocity also use punctuation eat pancakes etc so whos the real monster here
I do not in fact need to do that there are plenty of spectacularly shitty people even if I do not subscribe to the concept of evil per se but a person is a kind of thing the word has a meaning and as i believe in nonhuman persons that word is not a synonym for biologically human and feel like by using dehumanizing language I am only describing their behavior as many of them are proud of their distance from us and revel in inhumanity and when trying to speak to you my intuitive sense of audience has me using human as a synonym for person which is real fucked up for reasons Ill elaborate on
A whale or elephant or octopus or corvid is probably a person and a human can with great effort scour the personhood from itself just as it may nurture and develop the properties that comprise personhood in itself others and the world
If you want to be a moral coward feel free to not think about any of this feel free to keep your imagining of personhood a coincidence or some inborn essentialist entitlement which honestly sounds creepy and supremacist as you completely refrain from developing those things into more of what they could be which now that I’m saying it makes you sound like a total fucking reactionary but remember that only one of us used punctuation here like a genocidal piece of shit so maybe you are not in the best position to judge and I hope this was as fucking annoying to read as your reflexive unconsidered reactionary outburst of slave morality scolding
As an edit or addendum or whatever Dehumanization is a tool of violence yes and distrust yes and exclusion yes and these monsters who have declared themselves the enemies of the very concepts of society of freedom of humanity who have both claimed the results of dehumanization as their crowns and proven more than any other but their ilk from ancient times that they deserve it are I feel fair game because they cannot be negotiated with appealed to on moral grounds or swayed to the better with art because they are apart from us and have declared their needs and futures directly counter to ours so much that they will damage their own interests on purpose if the act damages ours at least as much to the point I would genuinely believe the lack of action on climate change is a deliberate retreat to bunker fantasies how in what way are these fucks still meaningfully persons when even their imagination and comprehension is broken they do not have a single original idea or critical thought between them every tech dystopian bullshit thing you’ve seen is just a fucked up idiots understanding of a 20th century science fiction novel for fucks sake Facebook is literally just the snow crash company zuckerberg hasnt even read a second god damn book since 1994 so please for the love of fuck tell me what personhood is in a way that isn’t human chauvanist essentialist woo or completely trivial and how these monsters have a shred of it but my x86 computer from 2011 doesnt
Nah. Dehumanising language is A-OK as long as it’s going upwards.
These people are not human. They are lacking in fundamental humanity.
Luigi should, at most, be done for firing a gun in public. The fact a sociopath’s brain got in the way is irrelevant.
These cunts need to start feeling terrified.
Because they “earned” or achieved wealth, i.e. worked really hard to become rich
You mean because people think the rich earned their wealth?
Like Jeff Bezos slaving day and night, as he does, to get all those parcels sent out.
Or Elon coming up with, like, cool ideas. And shit. After smoking another blunt and thinking about how great Adolf Hitler really was.
