• Realspecialguy@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Well… Just goes to show, we all need each other’s help to balence things.

    Also, who wants loose liberal women everywhere? Honestly, I dont want to marry someone with more partners than I can count on one hand… I dont think im crazy here? Cuz liberal women usually have many past lovers, in comparison to conservative women, in general…

    Over all, I find these graphs very positive. And I think things are starting to turn around. A lot of women these days realize that their grandmothers had a lot less pressure and a lot more freedom. Sure, there was more pressure to have babies, but there was much less pressure about getting a degree and a career. Women are looking back and realizing “homemaker” was an enviable position, usually.

    I long for those days ive never seen. Where a guy can get an entry level position and make enough to support his family on that single income. Why did that stop? Why is nearly every household a “dual-income” house? In a large part, it is because of the feminist movement. Women wanted things to be equal in the work force, and they did. Now things, like rent, are WAY more expensive because they assume most house holds are dual income.

    Edit: dual*

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      Also, who wants loose liberal women everywhere? Honestly, I dont want to marry someone with more partners than I can count on one hand… I dont think im crazy here? Cuz liberal women usually have many past lovers, in comparison to conservative women, in general…

      More past partners probably means they know some more wild things to surprise you in the bedroom. An experienced partner knows how to please both of you. An inexperienced partner won’t

      A lot of women these days realize that their grandmothers had a lot less pressure and a lot more freedom

      Yeah, needing your husband’s signature just to have your own checking account is totally freedom. Good luck to any women who kick their abusive husbands to the curb too because they won’t have any legal ability to be financially independent even if they do work!

      The big difference between now and 75 years ago that you’re referencing is that wages are way lower compared to expenses now than then. Over the last 50 years productivity per employee has grown explosively while wages have been stagnant when adjusted for inflation. That’s going to make you feel a pinch in your pocket

      I long for those days ive never seen. Where a guy can get an entry level position and make enough to support his family on that single income. Why did that stop? Why is nearly every household a “dual-income” house

      This ain’t got jack to do with feminism and everything to do with Regeanomics and also earlier Republican fuckheads like Nixon. See above regarding wage stagnation. Also costs of college tuition, housing etc. have increased significantly when adjusting for inflation compared to 50-75 years ago further leading to a financial crunch

      If feminism was as successful as you say it was women would be making equal pay to men, and they’re still right now in the year of our Lord two thousand and twenty five AD only making about 80% on average of what their male counterparts in the same positions make.

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      Honestly, I dont want to marry someone with more partners than I can count on one hand… I dont think im crazy here?

      I actually think this by itself is a reasonable take, though I’d say it also depends on the age. As a young (<25) guy, personally I would probably not date a girl with a 2-digit body count. Probably, because people are never that simple and you can’t be sure who the other person is without getting to know them. For some people this may not make a difference, and for others it may be a positive. We all have our own preferences. If you’re a low libido vanilla person, then you probably don’t want a freaky partner who likes sex a lot.

      Women are looking back and realizing “homemaker” was an enviable position, usually.

      This is because most jobs suck, wages are low and people want to enjoy their hobbies to stop thinking about all the global issues. Most men I know don’t see any issues with the idea of being stay-at-home husbands. It’s not women-specific.

      Why did that stop? Why is nearly every household a “dual-income” house? In a large part, it is because of the feminist movement.

      Almost every single word in this part is incorrect. First of all, feminism isn’t any more responsible for degrading quality of life than worker unions are. The ruling class simply decided they’ve had enough of ungrateful peasants fighting for more rights. Second, feminism has been dead for a while, so you can’t really blame it for anything substantial. 90% of modern feminists are just reverse misogynists, while the remaining 10% rarely speak out. They aren’t really considered ‘feminists’, but that’s because people generally don’t know what feminism is (or used to be?).

      Now things, like rent, are WAY more expensive because they assume most house holds are dual income.

      This is probably one of the last positions on the list of why rent is higher. There’s practically zero connection here. In short, rent is astronomically high, because capitalism doesn’t work. Not because women - also known as people - fought for more rights. Demanding basic rights is never a bad thing for anyone, regardless of additional unintended consequences.

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      i’d give you half an upvote and half a downvote because you get some things but miss others.

      Also, who wants loose liberal women everywhere?

      I want.

      A lot of women these days realize that their grandmothers had a lot less pressure and a lot more freedom.

      Surely times were less stressful if you had fewer responsibilities like work or education. What i regret deeply is that feminism didn’t offer women the choice to work and study, but instead it made it mandatory. You can’t choose whether you want to work today or not; you simply have to. It replaced one kind of oppression (being forbidden from working and studying) with another (being forbidden from not working and studying).

      Where a guy can get an entry level position and make enough to support his family on that single income. Why did that stop?

      It stopped because companies don’t have as much demand for human labor anymore, because a lot of tasks have become automated and don’t require humans to do them anymore. As a consequence, there’s less demand for human labor. Now, if you’re familiar with the basics of how markets work, you’ll have heard about the rule of supply and demand. If there’s less demand for human labor, that means the price for that labor (a.k.a. wages) are gonna decrease. And that’s exactly what’s happening today: wages have decreased significantly since the 1970s.

      I don’t think wages are gonna go up ever again, TBH, because demand for human labor is mostly caused by growth, and there’s no healthy way the economy can grow on Earth anymore. Except if you develop spaceflight and fly to mars, where there’d probably be a lot of demand for human labor. But that’s another story.

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        5 hours ago

        I never insinuated anything as such. And it also 100% sounds like justification for being loose…

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          Also, who wants loose liberal women everywhere

          It sounds like justification because it is. Putting sex on a pedestal and treating it like some extra special thing you only do for procreation with your soulmate leads to all kinds of weird hangups about it. It’s not common for someone to get lucky enough to find a partner who matches them on the first attempt.

          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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            It’s not common for someone to get lucky enough to find a partner who matches them on the first attempt.

            i did. that was a long time ago. life happened and now we’re apart.