• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    No, Im pretty sure these people pretending to have innocent opinions are pro genocide because they are putting their egos ahead of pragmatism by pretending they don’t understand the immense harm done when they falsely equate both parties just because neither are left leaning.

    Also when they ignore that the only chance of having leftist policies come to life in America is through shifting a winning democrat party over multiple terms in a very boring and not fun at all way rather than a fictional grass roots uprising magically changing the USA, famous for its molasses slow politics, over night.

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      10 hours ago

      “You’re pro-genocide because you’re not as pro-genocide as me!” -every last pro-genocide centrist.

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        I’m not quite sure I can even begin to follow the logic there.

        There are 2 realistic options and people pretending there are 3 are choosing the worst of 2.

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          8 hours ago

          There are 2 realistic options

          There are 0 options. The election is over and carrying water for the genocide wing of the party just ensures that it never changes.

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            6 hours ago

            The people partially responsible for its results saying anyone else is carrying water is insanity.

            The mid terms are not too long from now (if remotely free elections will exist thanks partially to them), so the idea that it’s all over so let’s let all the marginalized people die because we weren’t happy enough letting all the gazans die is a hell of a take from the people saying they aren’t pro genocide.

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              The people partially responsible for its results

              The people who spent all of 2024 warning you what would happen. The people that your wing of the party loved genocide too much to listen to. The people who were too insignificant to listen to are now so important that they’re to blame.

              Fuck that. You ignored people who knew better than you did because you wanted genocide that badly, and there isn’t a centrist who doesn’t prefer trump over telling netanyahu no.

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                Spending your time warning us that the thing you partially are responsible for happening happening is sooooo brave and very strong.

                The idea that literally doing marketting for voter apathy in the most important election of the past multiple decades is a sane take is tantrum throwing naivety.

                You all, almost certainly not visibly marginalized people made awful decisions that other people had to pay the price for first. Probably the only socialism you actually believe in.

                The people that your wing of the party loved genocide too much to listen to.

                You aren’t making some poignant criticism, this is a child throwing their food off the pram because they’re annoyed they need food to eat, and it isn’t exactly what they want.

                You are champagne socialists who act like you’re better than the people being realistic because not getting your hands dirty is doing no work towards the goals you pretend to have.

                You ignored people who knew better than you did because you wanted genocide that badly, and there isn’t a centrist who doesn’t prefer trump over telling netanyahu no.

                The fact you argue against made up strawmen like this is everything I need to know. You spend time arguing against strawmen as you have no argument with weight.

                You have no arguments against anything I’ve actually said.

                No practical leftist is happy with the Israeli genocide. Real, actual, non children realize that just because both options lead to some amount of harm does not mean they are the same, nor does it mean there is a magic third option.

                There was no primary this time, and we’re aware the control Israel has over US politicians. You can pretend that letting people die is somehow you being above it all, or you can realize this and make the best of a shit sandwich.