You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
lmao. Not sure what’s funnier here, that you apparently don’t exist according to your comment, or that it’s basically “Nuh-UH, YOU’RE STUPID!”
lol @ “independent thinker”
Speaking of which, where exactly did I defend anything? Quote the specific text.
Here, I’ll help. I said:
No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism,
Including me.
I explained how someone else might arrive at the place where the original meme was made. People on .ml instances are not some fully complete and perfect opposite pole of the Western world. Y’all have some opinions, and that’s not even the problem. You’re super annoying with how you try and force them on people.
Like how you’re literally lying and angry about the fact that not everyone likes how you communicate. Your ideas aren’t the problem, how you talk about them is the problem.
Fun fact: Explaining the biology of a seagull to someone doesn’t make me a seagull. If I ask you to explain how a microwave works, shall you become a microwave?
A mode of production where private ownership of the means of production is the principle aspect of the economy, ie over at least the large firms and key industries. Socialism is where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and communism is a post-socialist mode of production where all production and distribution has been collectivized and is run to suit the needs of society. Economic planning is key to socialism and communism.
What is ownership? If I say you own a car, but take it and drive it whenever I want, even if you may own it- I control it. Given that context, is modern Russia socialist or capitalist?
Modern Russia is capitalist, I don’t think anyone thinks it’s socialist anymore. The USSR dissolved over 3 decades ago. Ownership of property is protected by the state, be it public ownership or private ownership. Trying to abstract an analogy doesn’t actually work the same way at a societal level.
You said larger firms and key industries. In Russia small firms are more private, but larger firms and industries range from heavily state influenced to fully nationalized.
Russia has a larger portion of state-owned industry as a holdover from the soviet era as compared to most capitalist countries, but they aren’t socialist and are dominated by capitalists. They do not have a working class state any longer.
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
lmao. Not sure what’s funnier here, that you apparently don’t exist according to your comment, or that it’s basically “Nuh-UH, YOU’RE STUPID!”
Speaking of which, where exactly did I defend anything? Quote the specific text.
Here, I’ll help. I said:
Including me.
I explained how someone else might arrive at the place where the original meme was made. People on .ml instances are not some fully complete and perfect opposite pole of the Western world. Y’all have some opinions, and that’s not even the problem. You’re super annoying with how you try and force them on people.
Like how you’re literally lying and angry about the fact that not everyone likes how you communicate. Your ideas aren’t the problem, how you talk about them is the problem.
Fun fact: Explaining the biology of a seagull to someone doesn’t make me a seagull. If I ask you to explain how a microwave works, shall you become a microwave?
Goddamn you’re dumb
That’s the highest form of endorsement I could have hoped for ;)
Your hopes are also profoundly stupid
The dominant economic and political system is mixed and always has been.
Lol no, it’s currently capitalism
As we know, socialism is when the government does stuff, and the government does some stuff, that means its a mix of capitalism and socialism.
Everyone paying for the police that protect the institution of capital is an example of socialism.
-libs, probably
capitalism is when rich people exist then?
What is capitalism?
A mode of production where private ownership of the means of production is the principle aspect of the economy, ie over at least the large firms and key industries. Socialism is where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and communism is a post-socialist mode of production where all production and distribution has been collectivized and is run to suit the needs of society. Economic planning is key to socialism and communism.
What is ownership? If I say you own a car, but take it and drive it whenever I want, even if you may own it- I control it. Given that context, is modern Russia socialist or capitalist?
Modern Russia is capitalist, I don’t think anyone thinks it’s socialist anymore. The USSR dissolved over 3 decades ago. Ownership of property is protected by the state, be it public ownership or private ownership. Trying to abstract an analogy doesn’t actually work the same way at a societal level.
You said larger firms and key industries. In Russia small firms are more private, but larger firms and industries range from heavily state influenced to fully nationalized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Russia
4/5 the top 5 companies are transparently state owned
Russia has a larger portion of state-owned industry as a holdover from the soviet era as compared to most capitalist countries, but they aren’t socialist and are dominated by capitalists. They do not have a working class state any longer.
Are you being serious? Embarassing
It seems to me at the moment you define essentially everything as capitalism
You are exceptionally stupid
Ironic post
Lol
It’s not about the economic system, it’s the constant china glazing
It absolutely is about the economic system, and the “china glazing” is a direct response to US propaganda
Cringe
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
ah, classic ml. Genocide deniers
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/17/asia/uyghurs-muslim-countries-china-intl https://www.memri.org/tv/saudi-palestinian-ambassadors-china-clean-bill-health-xinjiang-knows-best-internal-affairs-liberal-democracies-not-for-everyone https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/muslim-countries-joined-china-in-defending-its-cultural-genocide-of-uighurs-arent-they-ashamed/2019/07/20/0a7d62b4-aa3f-11e9-86dd-d7f0e60391e9_story.html https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2021/08/08/2003762216 So the story is that the US and our allies, who have spent decades villifying imprisoning and killing muslims, and who have repeatedly verifiably lied about similar human rights abuses to justify our foreign policy before, are the only ones who can be trusted to tell the truth about the conditions for muslims who just happen to be living in the country which is our single greatest global rival politically and economically, about whom we have an extremely obvious foreign policy motive for lying, but we’re definitely telling the truth this time and everyone else is lying? Every muslim majority nation on earth is apparently only supporting China because they’re either corrupt or too terrified to oppose them, despite the fact that the US has been completely unable to get similar results for Israel with our best efforts? And despite having the most advanced surveillance technology on earth, despite having satellites that can take high resolution pictures of any patch of dirt on earth and an unmatched intelligence network, the US has somehow been unable to obtain any incontrovertible physical evidence of this supposed genocide for years? And you believe that?
You going to start whining about “white genocide” in South Africa next?
Complains about strawmanning. Strawmans the hardest, hahahaha
Not a strawman
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