Thanks for linking the UN Report - really horrific stuff:
Two-thirds of the twenty-six former detainees
interviewed, reported having been subjected to treatment that would amount to torture and/or
other forms of ill-treatment, either in VETC facilities themselves or in the context of
processes of referral to VETC facilities. These claims of mistreatment took place either during interrogations or as a form of punishment for (alleged) wrongdoing.
Their
accounts included being beaten with batons, including electric batons while strapped in a so-
called “tiger chair”; being subjected to interrogation with water being poured in their faces;
prolonged solitary confinement; and being forced to sit motionless on small stools for
prolonged periods of time.
Some also spoke of various forms of sexual violence, including some instances of
rape, affecting mainly women. These accounts included having been forced by guards to
perform oral sex in the context of an interrogation and various forms of sexual humiliation,
including forced nudity. The accounts similarly described the way in which rapes took place
outside the dormitories, in separate rooms without cameras. In addition, several women
recounted being subject to invasive gynaecological examinations, including one woman who
described this taking place in a group setting which “made old women ashamed and young
girls cry”,
because they did not understand what was happening. The Government has
firmly denied these claims, often through personal or gendered attacks against the women
who have publicly reported these allegations.
The extent of arbitrary and discriminatory detention of members of Uyghur and
other predominantly Muslim groups, pursuant to law and policy, in context of restrictions
and deprivation more generally of fundamental rights enjoyed individually and collectively,
may constitute international crimes, in particular crimes against humanity.
You’re right it’s incorrect to call it a genocide but I’m glad you at least agree that “rape”, “torture”, “deprivation of fundamental rights” and probable “crimes against humanity” are being committed in the “re-education” camps against non-Han ethnic groups with the government being at the very least complicit by denying any wrongdoing - so it’s good to know you don’t blindly believe the CCP to be a benevolent force for good but can recognize the harm they’ve already caused to Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and Huis in Xinjiang.
I encourage you to read China’s response, and Qiao Collective’s resources. I said the UN report is the best source on the allegations, not that it’s a fully correct and verified document. The accusations are high, yes, which is why both sides of the argument need to be listened to. You wouldn’t refuse to listen to evidence brought by defendents, would you?
Thanks for linking the UN Report - really horrific stuff:
You’re right it’s incorrect to call it a genocide but I’m glad you at least agree that “rape”, “torture”, “deprivation of fundamental rights” and probable “crimes against humanity” are being committed in the “re-education” camps against non-Han ethnic groups with the government being at the very least complicit by denying any wrongdoing - so it’s good to know you don’t blindly believe the CCP to be a benevolent force for good but can recognize the harm they’ve already caused to Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and Huis in Xinjiang.
I encourage you to read China’s response, and Qiao Collective’s resources. I said the UN report is the best source on the allegations, not that it’s a fully correct and verified document. The accusations are high, yes, which is why both sides of the argument need to be listened to. You wouldn’t refuse to listen to evidence brought by defendents, would you?