• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 day ago

    Language does shape how we think, so it’s possible that saying it that way has a subconscious effect. I guess.

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      Without a doubt.

      Language and how we specifically say things are huge. It’s why we are big pushing to redefine a host of things now.

      We are meant to use “I feel” statements instead of indirectly blaming others with you statements. Using more specific pronouns to avoid little harms that can build up. To say more specific and less derogatory things like unhoused or inclusive things like people of color. It all adds up.

      This won’t be the solution or the cure for depression but every little bit helps. If you have depression and are stuck, the making a small differentiation that you FEEL sad instead of BEING sad can be just enough to get you in gear for that day at least. That can be huge.

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        10 hours ago

        I read 1984 as a teen, and there’s a huge (dry) section in the middle where Orwell basically does a treatise on language and how it affects behavior, and I remember thinking it was boring and far-fetched.

        Nowadays, I understand that it’s the most important aspect of the control in the novel.

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          5 hours ago

          Exactly.

          The way we speak is so important. Think about when people throw out something like “that movie was bad”, “that restaurant sucks”. That’s making it objective. It ends the conversation. There is no room for improvement or talk at all. In their minds those things are bad and that’s the end of it.

          You see this a lot in online communities, especially gaming.

          If they instead said “I didn’t like x”, a conversation can be had. Now there is a chance they could like that thing if something we’re adjusted. By changing how we say something we can be open others opinions, to differences we share.

          Language is powerful.

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      1 day ago

      I doubt it. I’m not depressed because I use the language “I am sad/depressed/” its uncontrollable environmental factors. I imagine its similar for anyone with lasting similar conditions like anxiety etc

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        I’m not depressed because I use the language “I am sad/depressed/”

        I didn’t really say that though did I.

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          13 hours ago

          But if it shapes how I think subconsciously it would’ve had an effect.

          Edit: if you think the effect is negligible why mention it without adding that?

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            10 hours ago

            Did you even read my comment? Where did I imply I had any certainty about it whatsoever?

            I wasn’t trying to start a fight, just an interesting thought that I had. Language 100% does affect our thought, whether we know it or not.

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              9 hours ago

              This is a comment section abt how the Irish language talks abt emotions you said “language shapes how we think so its possible” I understand this to mean the English language shapes how I am feeling am I wrong? If it is a negligible effect why mention it? Language isn’t the cause of pretty any of my emotions so what’s the point in the speculation of an negligible effect?