Mexico’s president says ‘there will be no invasion … it’s absolutely off the table’ after news reports of order
Mexico’s president, Claudia Sheinbaum, has rejected the idea that the US might invade Mexico after news reports suggested Donald Trump had authorized the use of military force targeting drug cartels deemed terrorist organizations in Latin American countries.
“The United States is not going to come to Mexico with their military,” she said during a daily news conference on Friday. “We cooperate, we collaborate, but there will be no invasion. It’s off the table, absolutely off the table.”
The Mexican president said her government had been informed of the executive order but insisted that “it had nothing to do with the participation of any military or any institution on our territory. There is no risk that they will invade our territory.”
If he was gonna do it he would have already. This is BS drama trump is stirring up on an international scale to try and get us to stop talking about the Epstein files. RELEASE THE DAMN FILES.
The 1000 FBI agents are still redacting trumps name from the files, they need more time.
“HOW THE FUCK DID HE END UP IN THAT MANY PLACES!?!?”
I believe it was by airplane.
I’m sure epstein kept saying how innocent trump was, that’s why he’s there so often.
- Yes, I would like a large cheese pizza, as large as trump is innocent.
15 years being Epstein 's best friend will do that
Fuck the us army, I hope they lose this war too.
loosing wars is their thing.
the US military is there to funnel tax dollars to shareholders so they can funnel a minute fraction of those dollars to lobbying bribes.
winning wars isn’t profitable. long open ended occupations are far more profitable.
You should lead the charge clown. Who is creating the demand for the illegal drug market? There’s your root cause.
open ended occupations are far more profitable.
Ah, one of our major exports: “Occupation as a Service.”
One does not invite a Fascist into one’s country without losing that country
Trump doesn’t want to seize Mexico like wants to take Canada because Mexico is full of brown people.
Wait, you think white people don’t want to take over the country full of brown people? How do you think Colonialism works?
And if you need a modern day equivalent, then just look at Gaza
OP’s point still stands. He would neocolonize Mexico but wants Canada as the 51st state
He would just sharpie the timeline.
That kind of colony is not financially viable since the 40s-50s. The US wants neocolonies like they have in South America or the Middle East, with a financially, not militarily beholden leadership.
okay but hear me out
israel doesn’t want to seize gaza because it’s full of brown people
and suddenly everything gets so much worse
mexican cartels are to the US as hamas is to israel - or at least that’s the narrative they’re pushing
The cartels are just becuase Trump doesn’t like them
ugh.
The Cartels are pure evil, they aren’t ‘resistance’ they’re thugs who murder whole families 3 generations down for not paying them bribes.
The Trump cartel?
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Canada is full of brown people too.
Oh I’m sure Trump plans to ‘fix’ that
Canada is full of brown people…mostly those immigrated recently enough that their citizenship could be declared invalid because ‘reasons’ and forcibly deported back to their ancestral countries.
Yeah. Usually one would worry about fascists invading countries with an ethnicity they don’t like for Lebensraum, but “fortunately” America has plenty of minorities on its own soil so the Holocaust can be implemented completely domestically.
Wasn’t this logic used at the conclusion of the Mexican-American war?
He sure does want to kill us so it is a bit worrying.
My money would be on the cartels if this happened.
So if the cartels are operating in Mexico and the United States, and Trump’s executive order doesn’t involve using the military on Mexican territory, I guess it must be to use the military on American territory?
Yeah—now military deployments anywhere in America can be excused as part of anti-cartel actions, until they aren’t.
You mean day 1 then?
And don’t forget all the bullshit claims that people with random tattoos were MS-13 members and sent to El Salvador. Now he’ll send the army against whatever tattoo he decides he doesn’t like next.
This is what Project 2025 said wasn’t it?
Your logic seems sound.
This justification is straight out of Clear and Present Danger. Also, see Sicario. Big exception being, those anti-cartel operations were black jobs. Now we’re openly talking about it!
those black jobs make a lot more sense.
Openly talking about it and framing it like a military invasion is just dumbshit, caveman, jingoistic, sports team levels of bravado. Authoritarian and Fascist strongmen just doing authoritarian fascist strongman things.
Variable, this is Knife…
That’s the movie that make me look up “actual” as a commo term!
Time to defend freedom from Drug-Cartels in Mexico!
Mexico has no military that could stop the US. Maybe sanctions…but it’s not like saying “no” ever stopped Mango Mussolini.
Mmmmm, don’t be too sure.
Yeah, the US has the drones and the tanks and the planes. Remember how well that went in Afghanistan? Iraq, anyone?
They can invade the country and overrun it in seconds, I have no doubt about that. Then, though, the fun starts.
Mexicans, especially those in the cartels, have very creative ways to make people really really regret stepping in the wrong direction.
How many videos of US soldiers slowly being cut into pieces alive and then hung from a bridge, posted on TikTok, do you think it’ll take before his base starts getting a very big knot in their stomach?
Then what do you think cartel soldiers already in the US will do? How do you think the Latino community in the US will respond?
If the US invades México, it will destroy México, have no doubt about that.
It will also absolutely end Trump and the US.
The Taliban didn’t have a military that could stop the US either. How did that work out again?
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Maybe Mexico should be in NATO now.
They have a whole lot of people who could pass as someone genuinely from the US underclass for long enough to get into a shopping mall or some legislatures with an automatic weapon.
And a border long enough that they can’t be efficiently stopped, especially as the front overtakes them. Look at Russia and Ukraine and a third of the Russian strategic airforce in flames.
I am with you until the last sentence.
In an actual war, the US would take Mexico in half a day. The US military is far more competent than Russsia. But holding it is another matter.
There would be insurgents for decades and you are absolutely right that it would spill over into the domestic United States. I would be an absolute disaster.
The US military is far more competent than Russsia.
But it will not remain so. A dictatorship needs a pyramid of incompetence, the most competent person in the military needs to be Trump, he will hire only less competetnt people, and it cascades from there. The Russians are incompetent not because they are worse as people, but because their society is organised the way Trump wants to remake the US as.
Just to mention, just a few months after taking command, two US Navy fighter jets were lost as they slid off a carrier deck as per the official account, which I expect to be as accurate as the Russian accounts of smoking soldiers blowing up ammo dumps. The real thing is going to be much more embarassing if this is what they admit to.
Ukraine has the benefit of bordering a powerful alliance that is giving them weapons, Mexico does not.
Guatemala, Belize, and boats from Cuba are nowhere near the same thing as getting literal trainloads of heavy weapons and fighting vehicles through Poland.
comparing Mexican/Cartel resistance to an aggressive America, is not even in the same conversation as the bumbling fuckwit Russian invasion of Europe.
The EU and the US is giving Ukraine weapons because every bunch of old tech we give them means one less Russian armored division we need to worry about.
Why would China not do the same and fire up a whole bunch of container ships loaded with old shit and drop it off in Latin America? How long would it take for the US occupation force to start to find Chinese missile launchers and drones taking Abrams platoons to the cleaners?
And if the US started a Mexican occupation, do you think the whole of Latin America would just look on, or rather drift into a Chinese sphere of influence as a result? How long until you had Chinese military presence in Panama for example? Imagine a blockade on US trade in Panama, enforced by Chinese anti-ship missiles.
It would be the mother of all clusterfucks.
Ukraine doesn’t have to worry about Russian troops intercepting Aid trans and planes coming from the west. (although they do a good job at stirring up locals into doing things like farmer protests blocking aid)
Central america on the other hand, Has the entire pacific ocean, and the US Navy to deal with. if the US was off the rails on fascist-invade-your-neighbors mode. the navy would absolutely be blockading the region and sinking any ship that came near it that tried to break the blockade.
I’m sorry, your analogy just doesnt work. yes there would be some attempts at international interference and shitpot stirring in that scenario, but Mexico is in a very poor position to defend itself if they were ever invaded. The Americans biggest problem would be internal protest and internal violence.
Would the US Navy be able to block every Chinese container ship to approach the whole of the Americas? Note, they aren’t warships, they are there for trade, legitimate trade actually. Would it be able to stop every ship the Chinese might be able to charter? Even searching those ships would be an insane task. Would they be able to check under every crate of bananas whether there is a guided missile hiding in there? Would they be able to do that without the oligarchs who will be bleeding money screeching bloody murder?
It would effectively have the US sanction itself, and cause the US to have larger problems than Mexican insurgents. Like the dollar being worth nothing. It’s not 1940 anymore. The world is in this together, and our economies are tightly coupled enough that even sanctioning regional players like Russia have dire economic consequences.
And China would already be happy that the US is spending all that money maneuvering carrier groups around looking for 200 dollar assault rifles. Same logic as in Ukraine, one dollar spent in aid causes fifty in damage to the invaders’ economy. And China can outmanufacture the US easily at this point.
Don’t forget: one side’s soldiers present a far larger target area…
“betcha they won’t see me, Sarge”
They have enough to hurt a lot.
And they should have a nice big defensive WALL 🤣
And so far America has paid for it!
They have enough to hurt the American South.
The ‘good’ Texans need to be ready to leave. They’ve bitched and moaned about not being able to for so long. But if they don’t do it soon, one way or another they’ll lose the chance forever.
They need to get clear of the pigs living next door before the pigs or the Mexicans take up arms.
Thank you, I know this is the cheeto creating distractions, but we (mexicans) would not stand a chance against the USA if they actually decided they wanted our territory.
Our militia is a joke in comparison and the narcos (you know, the ones with better equipment, information and controlling the goverment) would hide, they would not fight at all.
Also the goverment has been doing their best antagonising the citizens and taking our rights away so… It would be a hard pill to swallow for everyone and arming the people you’ve been harassing and abusing doesn’t sound like a great idea.If the US invades Mexico it’ll overrun it within a day, no doubt. However, look at Afghanistan, Iraq. Look at how the US got beat every time. Now remember what cartels do with their enemies and imagine how many soldiers hanging from bridges it would take for the US to call it quits. Remember how many cartel soldiers there already are in the US. What do you think the Latino community will do once the US army starts the eventual murder of innocent Mexican citizens…
The US invading México will end Mexico, it will also end the US
the US invading -anyone- who isn’t already seen as an enemy of the nation by the PEOPLE of the nation, will trigger an actual shooting civil war.
and by that I mean, there aren’t very many countries that the majority of American people truly see as an enemy, so thats basically Russia, Iran, North Korea, to some extent China. and a bunch of countries from the middle east , central america and southeast asia who have varying histories of things vaguely “islamist, terrorist, or communist”
Mexico, and Literal Allies like Canada and other NATO countries, are not on that list. starting a war with someone not on that list, will be a signal to everyone in America who isn’t a brown nosing collaborator, that their own government is rogue and has to be toppled.
I would agree if I hadn’t seen already so much complacency. People just don’t give a shit and act like the frog in the slowly heating up pan. I’d hope you’re right but I am not so sure
It’s a bad comparison because México isn’t all the way crossing an ocean, we are right here, keeping supplies and machines going would be extremely easier.
Cartels are NOT revolutionaries, they are opportunistic assholes, they attack and control places where nobody can fight back, they would be the first ones to flee/hide and would only come back after the conflict was over to try and keep their business going in one way or another.What do you think the Latino community will do once the US army starts the eventual murder of innocent Mexican citizens…
I see 2 options… people keep trying to fight back until either they kills us all or enslave everyone due to broken morale, or enough people betray us wishing to be one of them (I can see the militia and goverment being the first ones to betray all of us) and it’s over in no time.
The US invading México will end Mexico, it will also end the US
I have no idea what fantasy you have about México but that’s not it.
If the USA gets serious (like using anything remote like drones and missiles), it’s over for us, we have nothing; if it’s just posturing and they decide they want to toy with us by sending people to die and kill us slowly… then maybe, but again, they could end it in no time.And the US would still lose, because that is what the US does best.
Yeah, it can invade the shit out of everywhere, but it never has been able to keep what it invaded. As soon as the dead bodies start coming back, politicians start screaming.
México can’t stop the US from invading, of course, but guerilla warfare? Bring it on. US soldiers will be hanging from bridges and videos will be posted everywhere, it will be ugly. It will be the same as in Afghanistan, and they didn’t have a lack of tech there, there weren’t any logistics issues as the US simply has the best logistics of any army in the world.
Then there is the fact that the US has enormous Latino communities which will start pushing back at the least, fighting back more likely. This van lest to an uprising in their own country.
Invading México will destroy Mexico, but it will also tear the US to oieces
they’re not talking about mexico or the cartels militarily defeating or resisting america, they’re talking about america, thats a tinderbox that people feel is teetering on civil war for a long time now, will tear itself apart if a regime like MAGA starts shooting wars with its own neighbors.
the American people may have a deep distaste of the cartels, and want them dead, but they dont want Mexico attacked and blown up like they want for Iran, North Korea, China… and for a while until the gangsters came to power, Russia. There’s no appetite for war. and opposition to Trump / Fascists know that war is a permanent seizure of power.
enough people saw what happened in Star Wars. people may be vapid and consumed by pop culture, but they’re not totally stupid
Once again, Thank You President Sheinbaum!!
It’s cute she thinks she has a choice
you have a choice to resist a foreign invasion.
The world would be much worse if everybody just surrendered everything all the time
The cartels are an evil scourge without a trace of humanity. Nothing of value will be lost if they’re swept off the board. I hope their buttholes are puckering at the thought of Delta and SEAL teams kicking down their doors.
The most effective way to dismantle criminal organizations of any nature is not by guns and bullets but by eliminating their markets.
People resort to drugs out of despair and disinformation. They either want an escape of reality or they want to “have fun” and they disregard or ignore the trap drugs represent.
Give to people security and a good life, inform and educate them, create safety nets for them to crash when things go wrong and 90% of drug trafficking and related crime just disappears. The other 10% you keep at bay by having good, humane, well trained police, on which the population can trust and rely.
Going for an all out war on cartels is a nighmare waiting to happen, at your door.
Way to go. I like this take.
It’s become very clear that there is no moral goal behind the “war on drugs.” It just becomes a never-ending escalation of cat and mouse, and civilians are caught up in the middle.
The factions of fear and despair based profit that made everybody miserable enough to give the cartels a market, now are simply mad they’re not getting (enough) revenue from that market.
Conveniently as well, entire industries (many well-meaning) have sprung up around combatting the ravages of addiction, and “because drugs” is a convenient cop-out for pretty much every societal issue, and an expedient paper-thin justification for crackdowns, fear-mongering, and draconian punishments.
Unlike the rest of us, the powers that be have little to gain from “solving” drugs.
Instead of reducing the systemic precursors to crime, they would rather instead cut off everybody’s arms and merely rent them back to you only while you’re clocked in at work.
Sometimes people just take drugs because drugs are fun … Not all of them are despairing or desperate…
The gross majority I am fairly confident they are.
But if you think recreational drugs are fine, campaign for them to be legalized, just like tobbacco, alcohol and guns. And pot. Those have been legalized. Less trouble when something is properly regulated.
Where I live, they haven’t all been. I suspect many feel about guns and pot the same way as you feel about drugs that haven’t been legalised in your area.
Anyway, legalisation of drugs isn’t the hard bit, it’s the regulation that can be tricky to get right…
Indeed, the Swiss did it and they were quite successful.
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You’re completely missing the point.
Maybe (I won’t be weighing in any further), but can we at the very least agree that Mexico isn’t doing enough?
You can do your bit by buying locally produced drugs. You’ll also be supporting the community by creating work for American criminals.
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We can. They are failling to do what I first mentioned.
How would you feel about Mexican military doing operations in the US?
It would ideally be a combined operation, obviously. Mexico either can’t or refuses to clean house. If the cartels are spilling over the border then the US has every right to excise them at the source bin Laden style.
What the fuck are you even talking about? What organisation has the US wiped out with this approach? Last I checked the Taliban is still going.
The cartels are violent organisations that are deeply embedded in Mexico. Killing a bunch of them won’t resolve the actual problems that facilitated their rise.
Ffs. It’s like someone walked out of a time machine from 2002 and started spouting posy-9/11 rhetoric. And I’m reminded of just how fucking stupid everyone was back then. Read a fucking book.
Last I checked the Taliban is still going.
You’re absolutely right.
Even better, thanks to U.S involvement, they’ve got a whole country in their clutches now!
🇺🇸✌️MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!✌️🦅
There’s times when violent intervention is unavoidable, and cartels are decidedly not a force for good in this world, but it’s seriously sad how we’ve conditioned the civilian populace into casually thinking “Maybe if we just killed them all that would fix problems!”
“Just one more invasion bro. Just one more, just one more drone strike bro. It’ll fix everything this time! Trust me bro. One more Contra op! Just bump my defense stonks a little bit bro! Just little bump! C’moooon!”
Spoken like a cartel spokesperson. They paying you in coke? :P
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How little you value the sovereignty of other nations.
Yeah, I value the eradication of murderous scum over sovereignty. Guilty as charged.
Soooo, murderous scum that would invade other nations?
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How would you feel if a foreign power invaded your country to spy and destabilize your government and economy under the pretext of a supposed war on drugs, using what is evidently the wrong tools and methods for the supposed job?
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So… about the Zetas…
Mexico military is too weak and corrupt, they would loose 1 vs 1 against the US military. The US can easily annex some districts in northern Mexico to form a buffer zone against the Cartels.
Yeah that works right until China or Russia start arming the Mexican military. We’ve been supporting Ukraine for years. Russia or China would be more than happy to send whatever arms they can to help Mexico. And it’s amazing how effective an active invasion of your nation is with addressing military corruption.
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Do you not realize that a world that America starts invading Mexico or Canada, is a world that America is on the same side as Russia?
behind the curtains, there’s already plenty to suggest that they are two allied mafias conspiring to divide and conquer.
nah, I suspect the us also has embedded its best secret services into Mexico to prevent that.
“1 vs 1” have you ever been outside?
1 vs 4 they would still win
Can easily but should not.
It’s a stupid fucking idea.
Okay, now compare it to the idea of Canada as the 51st state next? Which will Trump act on first, or is this just talk about annexation?
That’s also a stupid idea. Don’t know what you were trying to accomplish by bringing that up.
Both are related in the deployment of military forces in other countries. So lets compare the stupidity of the idea, which is worse? Or both are equal in their stupidity? I guess since Canada has a smaller population concentrated only at the US border it would be less difficult than Mexico in a shooting war for the US. Since Trump is “commander in chief” of the armed force I guess he could order such invasions? Would the military follow the order because of the law and command hierarchy? asking for a friend
They are both monumentally, America-ending levels of stupid.
Starting an armed conflict with either country would result in the dissolution of NATO (Europe would cut all ties with America militarily), have thousands of soldiers taken as POWs by European forces at the Euro bases, Result in massive “terrorist” attacks across America because Mexican or Canadian people (or sympathisers) are invisible in American Society, (Just look to how Russia got torn apart trying to occupy Ukraine because they couldnt tell friend from foe due to language and culture similarities)
and it would be a clear and concrete signal to anyone who dissents the Trump regime that The Republican party and Trump are enemies of the state, and they’d have no option left but to kill or be killed.
the world is already a tinderbox thats close to blowing thanks to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Israel trying to settle every score it can before Bibi loses power, and various other shitstorms, and you’re questioning which of the two grenades will cause a smaller explosion of said tinderbox?
I think you underestimate the power of the Central Intelligence Agencies, they can achieve any mission on any continent. Using space technology, like Starlink satellites 🛰, they can command the globe.
E pluribus unum. 👁
Cool bro. the CIA has nothing to do with the domestic problem in America.
*lose
The US could invade any country on Earth easily. Put up a big “Mission Accomplished” banner and all that.
The occupation that follows an invasion? That’s something the US isn’t all that good at. The US couldn’t hold Afghanistan. But with Afghanistan Americans could run home with their tail between their legs.
What your plan for withdrawing from a war on the North American continent?
The US could invade any country on Earth easily.
But only once.
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