My understanding is most of you are anti AI? My only question is…why? It is the coolest invention since the Internet and it is remarkable how close it can resemble actual consciousness. No joke the AI in sci fi movies is worse than what we actually have in many ways!
Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely anti “AI baked into my operating system and cell phone so that it can monitor me and sell me crap”. If that’s what being Anti AI is…to that I say Amen.
But simply not liking a privacy conscious experience or utilization of AI at all? I’m not getting it?
Lemmy loves artists who have their income threatened by AI because AI can make what they make at a substantially lower cost with an acceptable quality in a fraction of the time.
AI depends on being trained on the artistic works of others, essentially intellectual and artistic property theft, so that you can make an image of a fat anime JD Vance. Calling it plagiarism is a bit far, but it edges so hard that it leaks onto the balls and could cum with a soft breeze.
AI consumes massive amounts of energy, which is supplied through climate hostile means.
AI threatens to take countless office jobs, which are some of the better paying jobs in metropolitan areas where most people can’t afford to live.
AI is a party trick, it is not comparable to human or an advanced AI. It is unimaginative and not creative like an actual AI. Calling the current state of AI anything like an advanced AI is like calling paint by numbers the result of artistry. It can rhyme, it can be like, but it can never be original.
I think that about sums it up.
The less tech-savvy of lemmy
Acceptable quality is a bit of a stretch in many cases… Especially with the hallucinations everywhere in generated text.
Most of that gets solved with an altered prompt or trying again.
That is less of an issue as time goes on. It was just a couple years ago that the number of fingers and limbs were a roll of the dice, now the random words in the background are alien.
AI is getting so much money dumped into it that it is progressing at a very rapid pace. an all AI movie is just around the corner and it will have a style that says AI, but could easily be mistaken with a conventional film production that has a particular style.
Once AI porn gets there, AI has won media.
Eh, I at least partially disagree. I’ve noticed some of the modern models (such as Claude 4.0) have started to hallucinate more than previous models. I know you’re talking about image generation, but still. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but maybe it’s cause the models are beginning to consume their own slop.
https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/2221c875-02dc-4789-800b-e7758f3722c1/o3-and-o4-mini-system-card.pdf
OpenAi May 2025: in their internal tests the newer model the higher hallucination rate.
That’s going to be a huge issue indeed because synthetic data contains bias and it’s proven that produced biased models.
Fairly stated
While I mostly agree with all your arguments, I think the ‘intellectual property’ part - from my perspective - is a bit ambivalent on Lemmy. When someone uses an AI that is trained on pirated art to create a meme, that’s seen as a sin. Meanwhile, using regular artists’ or photographers’ work in memes without paying the author is really common. More or less every news article comes with a link to Archive.is to bypass paywalls and there are also special communities subject to (digital) piracy which are far more polular than AI content.
I’m not saying that you are wrong or that piracy is great, but when pirating media or creating memes, you can pinpoint a specific artist that created the original piece. And therefore acts as a bit of an ad for the creator (not necessarily a good one). But with AI it’s for the most part not possible to say exactly who it took “inspiration” from. Which in my opinion makes it worse. Said in other words: A viral meme can benefit the artist, while AI slop does not.
Can you make an example of something 100% original that was not inspired by anything that came before?
That’s not what imaginative means.
If you’d like an example of AI being exceptionally boring to look at, though, peruse through any rule 34 site that has had its catalogue overrun with AI spam: an endless see of images that all have the same artstyle, the same color choices, the same perspective, the same poses, the same personality; a flipbook of allegedly different characters that all. look. fucking. identical.
I’m not joking: I was once so bored by the AI garbage presented to me, I actually just stopped jerking off.
If you people would do something interesting with your novelty toy, I would be like 10% less mad about it.
Ironically you just said that artists are wrong to be concerned.
The threat of AI is not that it will be more human than human. It is that it will become so ubiquitous that real people are hard to find.
I couldn’t find many real people.
Are you sure that I’m real?