• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Disappointed to see Jacobin taking the threat of the wealthy leaving seriously…

    It’s fucking New York, raise property tax and raise it more for any person (or corporation without a majority of owners) that lives outside of New York.

    Stop fucking acting like we can’t do shit, because the wealthy might retaliate. They haven’t stopped the class war, they’re fighting as hard as possible and willing to cross any line.

    Anyone saying we can’t fight back because they might retaliate is ignorant of the entire history of America. They’re already doing everything they can to fuck us over.

    If the wealthy say they’ll leave because of progressive the response should be only:

    K

    And then go back to talking about progressive policy to voters.

    Don’t let them stop what’s working by changing the subject.

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      The thing about the rich leaving is… It doesn’t matter if they do. What actual work do they do to produce the profits? Absolutely fuck all.

      Imagine for a moment that all billionaires suddenly left the county. They’d effectively be abandoning their properties, which so long as progressive policies are in place, wouldn’t create a power vacuum where another rich asshole steps in and does the same or worse than the last one.

      WE are the producers. Implement progressive policy, make work more fair and everyone except the leaches (ownership leaches, not the disabled) benefit.

      Again, as you stated, progressive policy is the way to first, make the leaches leave, but also make the leaving not further destructive to society as a whole.

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        They’d effectively be abandoning their properties,

        They wouldn’t…

        They can’t take a fucking skyscraper with them, and they still pay property tax where it’s at.

        That’s why I’m saying if you wanted to keep them, you’d drastically raise property tax, with a reduction for states residents. Especially when talking housing, that would be huge.

        A homestead taxed at 5% or an investment property at 25% means investment firms aren’t just going to stop buying, they’ll start selling. Which would solve but at least alleviate the housing crisis.

        Like, specifically NYC, they’re in a weird situation they want to reduce the price of real estate. It can’t happen too fast tho or it 08 all over again.

        But the best thing to reduce real estate prices, is taxing the fuck out of investment properties. Maybe throw a multi-year plan out there so it gets more and more painful every year. That way it’s not a fire sale all at once.

        We have plenty of options, we just need to elect politicians willing to use them

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      17 days ago

      Right. Rich people leaving New York is a feature, not a bug. It’s not like they pay taxes and any “investment” they do is extractive (eg landlords).

      Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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      Unlike other classifications of people, it’s relatively easy to create new rich people. Isn’t that what these people think the American Dream is all about? Is this group of rich people opposed to the American Dream?

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      The article was talking about how Mamdani will have to handle the rich if he is elected. For the rest of us it suggests revolution.