• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 days ago

    your country is the size of the netherlands and equally flat, what precisely is the reason they can do it and danes can’t?

    Also, 10km at e-bike speed (25 km/h) is not even half an hour, and if there aren’t tons of cars on the roads then you don’t need bike infrastructure beyond covered parking, so what’s the problem with biking that distance?

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      7 days ago

      But can the Netherlands do it? Do they only bike in the rural parts?

      Sure, if people could just ride 10 km and then be at work, I see the point in it. But there are A LOT of places that are much further from the bigger cities where the actual jobs are. Out there you’d need to ride 10 km to even get to a bus, that may or may not come by once every hour. That bus can take you to a trainstation where a train will usually come by every hour. Then you can take that train to a bigger city where you can work, but that can easily be an hour. So at this point, if you time your initial bike trip to the bus right, you may already spend in excess of 2 hours, just to get to a large city where the jobs are. Now you need to take another bus to get to your actual job. Meaning 4+ hours round trip. It is not feasible for a person with family to do this.

      Sure the person can just move to the city, where houses cost 5x more, and simple appartments cost half their paycheck.

      • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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        5 days ago

        Do they only bike in the rural parts?

        Yes, mostly. At least in the rural parts where I visited, the bike path is the norm and everyone is using it.

        places that are much further from the bigger cities where the actual jobs are.

        Then you move closer to your job. Communing form whatever remote farm to a city every day for work is absolutely not normal. Living close to work is what most of the people do (by definition), and it works for most of the people. Worst case scenario you move to a town-satellite that is connected to a big city via rail network. If fucking Russia figured it out, Denmark can do it too, it’s not a rocket science. Farm workers who work on their farms and live their isolated lives still will have to use cars, but first of all they’re in a minority, even in agrarian developed countries it’s like 1% of population give or take. For everyone else cars is not a necessity and the best and only option, and if it is, it’s a failure of infrastructure and needs to be fixed first priority.