Electrician here, I’ve certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain’t pleasant.
And those generation alternators must be very confused.
Masochist here, you’re wrong
Sadist here. You’re right.
Appeaser here: You both make very good points.
AI here: wow, such a great and thoughtful comment! Thanks for adding to the channel.
Grok here: Regarding “white genocide” in South Africa,
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As a non-electrician, I’ve also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.
It really hertz
Must’ve been an AC
You can resist it
You only felt what electricity did to you, not what electricity feels, it probably feels like Rogue from Xmen where when it touches someone it hurts them so it will not be able to experience love so its sad and angry
Have you never been charged to thousands of volts? You can feel the static electric charge as it directly affects your body hair
Additionally there is evidence humans can sense magnetic fields, with some populations always knowing where north is, and using cardinal directions in place of forward, backwards, left, right, front, and back
Outsiders who have spent time with those people have learnt to sense their orientation.
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You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓
And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC… hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻
No no, work around hv and you’ll feel electricity even if you’re not doing hot work a lot of the time you can feel the inductive fields around you.
First of all, there are no “inductive fields”. There are electric and magnetic fields and what you can feel or sometimes hear are the electric fields.
Edit: I don’t understand all the downvotes, but whatever. Specifically what you can hear near high voltage power lines sometimes is partial discharge which is caused by high electric field strengths.
Electromagnetic induction is what you’re feeling and it is indeed creating an inductive field.
Electromagnetic fields induce electric fields, so you’re saying these inductive fields that you can feel are electric fields or do you feel the magnetic field of the induced currents?
An induced magnetic field is how you feel electricity around high voltage. What even is your argument here because what you’re saying in large part makes no sense.
My argument is that you can’t feel magnetic fields. What is yours, because all you write is utter nonsense. Electric fields are induced, not magnetic fields, it’s called Faraday’s law of induction, inductive field is not a technical term. You get a magnetic field from an induced current which is caused by the electric field in a conductor.
Confidently incorrect.
What kind of fields?
When PD, arcing or sparking occurs, electromagnetic waves propagate away from the fault site in all directions which contact the transformer tank and travel to earth (ground cable) where the HFCT is located to capture any EMI or EMP within the transformer, breaker, PT, CT, HV Cable, MCSG, LTC, LA, generator, large hv motors, etc.
Electromagnetic ones!
Yes, EM-Waves consist of an Electric and an orthogonal Magnetic field, these are linked, one can’t exist without the other, otherwise you wouldn’t get a wave. Partial discharge which is a form of corona discharge is caused by Electric fields.
Neat. So tell me, am I wrong in any of my statements this far. No? So what is the point of this tedious interaction?
You’re citing random parts of a wikipedia article that talks about an effect caused by an electric field and claim that it’s caused by a magnetic field. You’re an unscientific troll.
Ah but your nerves rely on electricity so actually you only feel electricity, checkmate athiests
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By that definition you don’t see or feel anything 🤡
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It feels like angry
and smells like burneding.
Those pesky pixies do have a penchant for producing pain.
Point properly presented.
It depends, with enough A’s, you don’t notice anything (anymore)
I may be an outlier here, but I’ve experienced mild electric shock from touching a random bare cable sticking out of a wall, and I found it weirdly pleasant. Refreshing, almost.
Mrs Doyle touching bare cables because it makes her feel alive feels like the actual plot of a father Ted episode
And this is how people get into electroplay…I, uh, assume.
Wait—I could have been physically enjoying the torture, rather than getting off on the dom’s pleasure??
Perhaps it’s time we call the men in white coats
Or did you felt it? vsauce music
No! You only felt what it does.
Get charged to a few thousand volts, and you will feel the electric charge pushing your hairs away from each other
You’ll feel the electric fields just as you feel a breeze
Now listen here you little shit
Fellow electrician here, I’m convinced that electricity is magic. I’ve only been in electric for 2 years or so, but I’ll be damned if I know how that shit works. The copper touches together and that equals light, or motors spinning, or whatever have you. How? Idk, smarter people figured that out, I’m just here to make sure the damned drywallers don’t cover up our magic copper
Look up “potential difference” and that should make everything make a little more sense.
Basically, the voltage component of electricity wants to flow where the potential is less than itself. In a 120v circuit, the neutral is bonded to ground at the main for a reference of 0v, and you hot leg will find the path of least resistance to that 0v (through the devices we put in line of that circuit, be it lights, motors, etc). The current, or load, in amps, is the work being done by those devices in conjunction with the designed resistance.
Think of a simple incandescent light bulb. The filament has a certain level of resistance that’s designed to sustain a glow when power is applied to it. The 120v potential, trying to reach 0v ground, passes through that filament (the load), making it glow (the current draw is the amount of amps necessary to achieve its full brightness). A motor is similar; power passes through the windings, generating a magnetic field that react with magnets and spin the motor.
Basically, your voltage drives the power through its path to ground, and current is drawn by work being done. V multiplied by A is Watts (kW), or power consumed.
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This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they’d simply said “electricity is god”. The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there’s no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It’s anti-education.
That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.
Holy crap that art is freakily accurate to reality
I think its more than what you claimed… They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.
Stupidity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what stupidity does. We know it makes people say strange things, make poor decisions, and ignore obvious facts. But we cannot say what stupidity is like.
We cannot even say where stupidity comes from. Some say it might stem from ignorance or misinformation. Others think that social influences or emotional bias produce some of it. All everyone knows is that stupidity seems to be everywhere and that there are many ways for it to surface.
No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it.
I wish.
I may have to make this my bio.
I love you.
Paychology, Sociology, Social Psychology. Arguably studies of stupidity.
This is child abuse. Pure and simple.
We have no clue what electricity is, because we, the authors, are dumb as fuck.
We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we’re non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said “secular curriculum” on the cover. We told them, “you don’t understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it’s way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum.”
It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and… yeah. It’d be like a flat-earther in orbit. It’s beyond ironic: it’s just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.
I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.
My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically “home schooling” because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical “home schooling” designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.
Wait so the above is actually real? And there are worse things in existence?
Wtf…
It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.
But also;
I am a Christian
How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?
“It’s all bollocks, but I still believe it.”
There’s nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it’s just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn’t be arguing about religion it’s fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it’s not testable, it’s not falsifiable it’s got absolutely nothing to do with science.
I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth.
I was thinking about how to reply here in a meaningful way but I think your response encapsulates the core of it pretty well. Lots more I could say, but would lead to long essay and probably of limited interest to the topic at hand.
Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don’t really get is why there’s a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is “well, yes, that’s pretty clever - of course god would do it that way” or “in this we better understand our maker” instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool.
I’ve observed several possible explanations:
- People are taught certain doctrines and will not question those doctrines - ever. If some new information conflicts with those doctrines, then their faith is being attacked.
- Some are deeply invested in what a certain doctrine allows or prohibits. Think about the sick rationalizations for slavery in the US back in the 1800s supposedly based on the teachings of the Bible. (Sorry, slavery fails the “love your neighbor as yourself” test). To change their thinking means that they have to admit that they were wrong or give up some privilege or perceived position of superiority.
- They self identify with those beliefs and anything that contradicts that belief is a personal attack. Basic arrogance.
From my perspective, the teachings of Christ were about humility. Admitting that you were/could be/are wrong and being willing to change. That’s the whole core of acknowledging your own selfishness (sin), moving to repentance (change) and seeking God’s help in that process. Being combative is not compatible with that, in my views.
as a person from across the ocean, i don’t get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don’t you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers.
The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum and there is a whole industry built to cater to that market. Unfortunately that includes books that deliver the kind of stupidity that we see above. Also, I think it is difficult for those outside the US to understand just how much we idolize individualism over any sense social responsibility here.
The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum
yeah, this is the surprising part for me, but i guess in the land of individualism it makes sense. thank you for the answer
I was homeschooled my entire childhood. My mom was a Christian. Not a crazy zealot, just a woman with faith. Initially, my school books were through a Christian curriculum program (I believe abeka books, iirc). One of my textbooks had this module on dinosaurs, with little pictures of humans in leopard print look clothes picking berries while a brontosaurus walked by in the background. My mom, ever the fantastic mother, immediately tossed those pieces of garbage and got me on the state curriculum that the public schools used. Took her forever to get it. Initially, when she called the state to ask how to get those resources she was told to stick with abeka, and was offered several other insane religious options before they finally relented. From then on, even though we lived in Virginia, my school standard came out of California, and I had to take end of year tests that aligned with the state of California. I got a great education, and because Mama let me basically choose what hours of the day I did my schoolwork in, I didn’t really need to take summers off. Ended up finishing 12th grade at 14 years old. I am so thankful that she realized how bad those books were, and fought to make sure, even as a single mother working well over full time, that her kids got a good education. My brother and I both placed highest in the state when we took our final exams, in everything but math.
What a coincidence! I had a very similar path! My elementary mis-education was largely a fundie school using Abeka as well. Their weird religious nationalism was so crazy when I look back on it. It’s amazing they could actually publish this crap.
I wish I still had all the old books we had to get because that would make for a good laugh (and possibly an embarrassment campaign.)
Like c’mon we were kids how were we supposed to know? But also it just felt so bullshitty, like a written form of that awkward feeling you got when it was really obvious adults were lying to manipulate you and thought you were stupid.
It was in California, so eventually I had to move to the state curriculum also, around middle school, for my grades to actually count.
Honestly, that requirement saved my intellect. I went to a secular charter school where I was pushed into interacting with so many different people of different perspectives, and I would be a much crappier person without that experience.
Even today the damage isn’t gone, there’s still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
These “curriculums” are child abuse.
After all that, I still kept my faith, not because of that upbringing, but in spite of it. That being said, I’m a Christian anarchist now. I make a point to counter this anti-intellectual, anti-Jesus, pro-fascist propaganda mongering wherever I can.
For what it’s worth. . .I’m glad we both made it through the other side of being exposed to that slop.
Damn! Fellow Homeschooled Abeka-refugee, and a fellow Christian anarchist‽ Well met! In fairness, my religion’s all over the place, but Christian anarchism is a big part of it.
Even today the damage isn’t gone, there’s still so much untangling and deprogramming to do.
it stunts their development while assuring them they have all the answers. funny, this is a recurring theme in religion that I see…
If only my mom had had half the motivation to look after my education as yours did. Hell, even a tenth.
I didn’t do bad, but I could’ve done much better weren’t it for the hindrances that mom didn’t care about.
This sounds similar to my childhood. Glad to know there are others. Growing up like that, I didn’t understand the stigma around homeschooling, however, seeing how some of my homeschool “peers” around me turned out, we’re a fraction of a fraction my friend. Thanks for sharing.
Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity.
I wish most electricity waa from renewable energy
Lots of it is generated by burning biologically sequestered solar energy from hundreds of millions of years ago.
Which is not renewable. Unless you can wait for a couple of million years.
not even then. the conditions that turned vegetation in to coal no longer exist
The process still exists, its just limited to rare environments, and will never be the scale as it once was.
The thing is that back in Carboniferous, there were the first trees but no decomposers for that so the process still exists but there are other processes that make it much more unlikely
One of my favorite insane conspiracy theories is that petroleum is constantly produced and is a renewable resource but that fact is hidden from us because it would mean “they” wouldn’t be able to impose carbon taxes and create more profit from other energy sources.
I suppose it isn’t completly a lie. It just takes 100 million years under some pretty specific circumstances, but there’s likely places where it’s currently being produced naturally right now…
The theory is that there is biotic petroleum(the oil we know) formed from biomass from millions of years ago and there is abiotic petroleum that constantly forming from carbon sources deep in the Earth.
Depending on what degree of delusion, they either believe that there is more petroleum being produced than we use or there is less being produced than we need and we need to offset the deficit with other forms of energy.
As you can imagine, the believers in limitless abiotic petroleum tend to have some overlap with young Earth creationists and flat-earthers.
The planet can, maybe the next species of critters to pick up a pointy stick can make use of it after it resets itself.
“Ok, so here’s the theme for this one: you’re in the 1890s and you’ve just seen your first lightbulb. All you know is it runs on electricity instead of oil, and that some fucking idiot caught some electricity in a jar during a lightning storm. Go!”
In 1890 they had telegraph lines between continents for about 40 years.
1890 would also be about 30 years after the invention of the telephone and 2 years after the invention of the strowger switch (first automated telephone switch)
“Ey, look! We gotta publish this book by the end of the week and the thermodynamics guy already wasted so much time that we’re behind schedule! Pretend those people were morons, alright?! Now, c’mon, get to writing, you’re on preface duty after that!”
Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.
Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.
My brother in America I have felt electricity and I can say exactly what it’s like.
If you still don’t believe though I will gladly share the secret of how to feel it for yourself. You need only bring a fork.
Just live somewhere that 220 is the standard.
You’ll feel it once…
Nah, I got rattled quite a number of times.
I do
For a preview that’s way way too low touch a dodgy HDMI cable, a finger will suffice if you want to feel electricity and with your tongue if you ran out of 9v bats.
That’s not a dodgy HDMI cable. One of the devices, if multiple are connected together, is causing the mains electricity to be capacitively transferred across the transformer core in the power supply.
That’s a dodgy power supply design because of either a cheap core design, poorly rated decoupling caps across the HV to LV side of the core or lack of earth pin.
I assume it is dodgy because it is a 5 meter cable and it was the only HDMI cable to do this, and it was purchased from a bazaar.
Not as fun
9V battery and tongue, or electric fence
This is the stupidest shit I have heard in my life. Ever seen fucking sparks? Ever had to deal with static electricity? What do they mean they don’t know where electricity comes from? We have power plants and an entire grid to provide electricity. The ways to generate electricity is extremely well known and are common fucking knowledge… I mean I learned it as a kid from cartoons and video games.
This feels like a projection of their deity. Did they want to conflate the mystery of their god to the mystery of electricity? I guess I’m a theist now…
The machine god is real. It’s blood is charge
Bloo… CHARGE FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
Praise the Omnissiah!
Mysticism has a way of filling a volume. They’ll ask question after question until they get the answer they want: “No, we’re not sure why charge is a property that a particle can have in our universe, but…” - “Got it, mystery.” Then they’ll turn around and shepherd all these “mysteries” into their god of the gaps to demystify them anyway, so they can feel wise when they should feel curious.
Tide comes in tide goes out. Can’t explain that.
