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    This is a great example of how conspiracy theories are: There are some bits that are quite true, but they are connected in such a weird and completely wrong way that you wonder how it even came to this.

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    Used to live across the street from a Freewill Baptist Church.

    Always curious about other beings mindsets, went and attended a service.

    Walked through the main door and felt the trope of crickets chirping. No one greeted me, said hello, welcome, nothing. I was stared at but never acknowledged.

    The service was strictly talking. No hyms or singing.

    The sermon told me they are creationists that believe “Singing and dancing lead to temptation”.

    Point is their “educational materials” were horrifying. Mostly just fear mongering and advising self segregation from reality.

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    Index Tome 5

    Meanwhile banned Books in Schools (Dangerous stuff)

    I’m understanding more and more how a stupid pedo_asshole can be voted as president by so much people.

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      Has anyone actually read any of those books?

      I feel like pretty much everyone who reads them is only doing so out of spite. I don’t think anyone has ever really wanted to read Fahrenheit 451.

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        I read 1984 (as an adult) and really enjoyed it, I’m not sure enjoyed is the right word, as it was also pretty sad. I can highly recommend the book. Animal farm I read for English class when I was 15 (in the Netherlands), didn’t fully get it, and should probably read it again, knowing its meaning.

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        I saw also the movie, also a movie with similar content, Equilibrium. 451ºF is the temperatur when Paper begins to burn.

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          451ºF is the temperatur when Paper begins to burn.

          Apparently this is not actually true, paper will burn at much lower temperatures than that which when you think about it is kind of obvious, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to set paper on fire with a lit match, you would need an accelerant, as wood starts burning at 400F.

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            The title is refered to the temperature needed to burn books. “Who burn books, soon also burn people”.

            Currently very actual in the US

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        I’ve read most of them and they’re mostly great, only one I read I didn’t really like was Catcher in the Rye. Fahrenheit 451 is a classic, I’ve read it of my own free will.

        No offense dude but you kind of just sound like a teenager going “reading is dumb”.

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          Just so because something is a classic doesn’t mean it’s good or that most people have read them, it just means that people have decided that it’s an important work.

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            I literally never said that, even said I didn’t like one of them. Sorry but most of the time they’re considered classics precisely because they are good, there’s a million other books printed from those eras that aren’t considered classics.

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    Electricity is the flow of electrons, (negative charge,) caused by one substance gaining electrons, and one substance losing electrons in a redox reaction. The thing that is oxidized loses electrons, and the substance that is reduced gains electrons. Oxidation is visible in nature via Rust. Water and oxygen gain electrons that are lost by the pure iron creating an iron oxide that is reddish brown. (Batteries have a + and - sign, hooking them up into a loop with a device creates the electricity that powers the device. Everyday batteries utilize zinc and a magnese oxide, but there are many other types of materials that are used in other types of batteries.) 25 years of this Christian faith homeschool bullshit; pretty clear why these dipshits voted trump.

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      That’s electricity by chemistry. Electricity by physics is done by moving a magnet relative to a wire, for example as the alternator in a car does

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    I have seen electric, it’s blue and I have even felt it, it hurts. Also I know where it comes from, it comes from the walls, there’s an electric sockets for it.

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        You know, back in time before the dark ages, Christianity was very scientific. Science was a tool that god gave to humans to understand the world they live in.

        And now it’s scawwy

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          Yes, monks are authors of scientific works, but as said, only if it not denies the Dogma (if they don’t wanted to burn) , also not accessible by the people and only for the elites, apart it wasn’t really science how we understand it now, it was more a process to adapt theories to fit the Dogma. But they invent also very nice things, eg. in the middle age, a number system to write numbers fro 1 to 9999 in one sign by Cistercian monks.

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            This is brilliant! Now finish it by making 100000 a “knot” by making it like 99999 but fill in the missing side bars. Then start a new hundred thousand knot by using a hyphen. So 100001 would be [knot]-[1]

            Now we just need to get rid of computers, typewriters and technology so this can be rightly appreciated.

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    Electrician here, I’ve certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain’t pleasant.

    And those generation alternators must be very confused.

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        Get charged to a few thousand volts, and you will feel the electric charge pushing your hairs away from each other

        You’ll feel the electric fields just as you feel a breeze

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      Fellow electrician here, I’m convinced that electricity is magic. I’ve only been in electric for 2 years or so, but I’ll be damned if I know how that shit works. The copper touches together and that equals light, or motors spinning, or whatever have you. How? Idk, smarter people figured that out, I’m just here to make sure the damned drywallers don’t cover up our magic copper

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        Look up “potential difference” and that should make everything make a little more sense.

        Basically, the voltage component of electricity wants to flow where the potential is less than itself. In a 120v circuit, the neutral is bonded to ground at the main for a reference of 0v, and you hot leg will find the path of least resistance to that 0v (through the devices we put in line of that circuit, be it lights, motors, etc). The current, or load, in amps, is the work being done by those devices in conjunction with the designed resistance.

        Think of a simple incandescent light bulb. The filament has a certain level of resistance that’s designed to sustain a glow when power is applied to it. The 120v potential, trying to reach 0v ground, passes through that filament (the load), making it glow (the current draw is the amount of amps necessary to achieve its full brightness). A motor is similar; power passes through the windings, generating a magnetic field that react with magnets and spin the motor.

        Basically, your voltage drives the power through its path to ground, and current is drawn by work being done. V multiplied by A is Watts (kW), or power consumed.

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      As a non-electrician, I’ve also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.

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        You only felt what electricity did to you, not what electricity feels, it probably feels like Rogue from Xmen where when it touches someone it hurts them so it will not be able to experience love so its sad and angry

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          Have you never been charged to thousands of volts? You can feel the static electric charge as it directly affects your body hair

          Additionally there is evidence humans can sense magnetic fields, with some populations always knowing where north is, and using cardinal directions in place of forward, backwards, left, right, front, and back

          Outsiders who have spent time with those people have learnt to sense their orientation.

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      You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓

      And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC… hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻

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        No no, work around hv and you’ll feel electricity even if you’re not doing hot work a lot of the time you can feel the inductive fields around you.

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          First of all, there are no “inductive fields”. There are electric and magnetic fields and what you can feel or sometimes hear are the electric fields.

          Edit: I don’t understand all the downvotes, but whatever. Specifically what you can hear near high voltage power lines sometimes is partial discharge which is caused by high electric field strengths.

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            Electromagnetic induction is what you’re feeling and it is indeed creating an inductive field.

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              Electromagnetic fields induce electric fields, so you’re saying these inductive fields that you can feel are electric fields or do you feel the magnetic field of the induced currents?

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                An induced magnetic field is how you feel electricity around high voltage. What even is your argument here because what you’re saying in large part makes no sense.

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                  My argument is that you can’t feel magnetic fields. What is yours, because all you write is utter nonsense. Electric fields are induced, not magnetic fields, it’s called Faraday’s law of induction, inductive field is not a technical term. You get a magnetic field from an induced current which is caused by the electric field in a conductor.

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            What kind of fields?

            When PD, arcing or sparking occurs, electromagnetic waves propagate away from the fault site in all directions which contact the transformer tank and travel to earth (ground cable) where the HFCT is located to capture any EMI or EMP within the transformer, breaker, PT, CT, HV Cable, MCSG, LTC, LA, generator, large hv motors, etc.

            Electromagnetic ones!

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              Yes, EM-Waves consist of an Electric and an orthogonal Magnetic field, these are linked, one can’t exist without the other, otherwise you wouldn’t get a wave. Partial discharge which is a form of corona discharge is caused by Electric fields.

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                Neat. So tell me, am I wrong in any of my statements this far. No? So what is the point of this tedious interaction?

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                  You’re citing random parts of a wikipedia article that talks about an effect caused by an electric field and claim that it’s caused by a magnetic field. You’re an unscientific troll.

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      It depends, with enough A’s, you don’t notice anything (anymore)

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      I may be an outlier here, but I’ve experienced mild electric shock from touching a random bare cable sticking out of a wall, and I found it weirdly pleasant. Refreshing, almost.

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    This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they’d simply said “electricity is god”. The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there’s no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It’s anti-education.

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      That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.

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      I think its more than what you claimed… They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.

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    Stupidity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what stupidity does. We know it makes people say strange things, make poor decisions, and ignore obvious facts. But we cannot say what stupidity is like.

    We cannot even say where stupidity comes from. Some say it might stem from ignorance or misinformation. Others think that social influences or emotional bias produce some of it. All everyone knows is that stupidity seems to be everywhere and that there are many ways for it to surface.

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    We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

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      as a person from across the ocean, i don’t get this. why would there be need for some different curriculum for homeschooling, and why would the choice depend on the parent? how is it possible you just get to chose? don’t you have to comply with some general standard? here, home-schooling is extremely rare, but if someone undergoes it, they have to use the same textbooks as everyone else and from time to time pass some exams in school to be sure the kid is not behind its peers.

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        The requirements for home schooling in the US vary wildly from one state to the other and can be almost devoid of any practical oversight in some circumstances. In most cases, parents have autonomy to choose their curriculum and there is a whole industry built to cater to that market. Unfortunately that includes books that deliver the kind of stupidity that we see above. Also, I think it is difficult for those outside the US to understand just how much we idolize individualism over any sense social responsibility here.

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      We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we’re non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said “secular curriculum” on the cover. We told them, “you don’t understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it’s way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum.”

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      It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

      The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and… yeah. It’d be like a flat-earther in orbit. It’s beyond ironic: it’s just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.

      I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.

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      My brother and sister-in-law homeschooled their kids for a while, which was a bit out of character for them. It turned out they were actually sending them to a private school that was technically “home schooling” because the parents taught the kids at home one day out of the week using school-provided materials and the kids were at the school the other four days. That one day a week allowed the technical “home schooling” designation and also allowed the school to use non-state-certified teachers (with the added bonus of being able to pay them hourly and only for four days of work a week). And all of this was only marginally cheaper than normal private schools. My bro and SIL eventually realized how shitty this was all around and moved into a good school district - which was way cheaper than private schools.

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      It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

      But also;

      I am a Christian

      How do you reconcile these two viewpoints?

      “It’s all bollocks, but I still believe it.”

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        There’s nothing fundamentally christian about the text in the picture above, it’s just nonsense propaganda. The whole science vs religion thing is frankly bollocks too - science shouldn’t be arguing about religion it’s fundamentally incompatible. OP can believe in a god, believe in an afterlife - science has nothing to say on the subject, it’s not testable, it’s not falsifiable it’s got absolutely nothing to do with science.

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          I was thinking about how to reply here in a meaningful way but I think your response encapsulates the core of it pretty well. Lots more I could say, but would lead to long essay and probably of limited interest to the topic at hand.

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            Ah yeah man, I feel ya. One thing I don’t really get is why there’s a subset of Christianity that wants to be so combative - like all that needs to be said is “well, yes, that’s pretty clever - of course god would do it that way” or “in this we better understand our maker” instead of trying to belittle what is a clearly useful and widely applied modelling tool.

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              I’ve observed several possible explanations:

              1. People are taught certain doctrines and will not question those doctrines - ever. If some new information conflicts with those doctrines, then their faith is being attacked.
              2. Some are deeply invested in what a certain doctrine allows or prohibits. Think about the sick rationalizations for slavery in the US back in the 1800s supposedly based on the teachings of the Bible. (Sorry, slavery fails the “love your neighbor as yourself” test). To change their thinking means that they have to admit that they were wrong or give up some privilege or perceived position of superiority.
              3. They self identify with those beliefs and anything that contradicts that belief is a personal attack. Basic arrogance.

              From my perspective, the teachings of Christ were about humility. Admitting that you were/could be/are wrong and being willing to change. That’s the whole core of acknowledging your own selfishness (sin), moving to repentance (change) and seeking God’s help in that process. Being combative is not compatible with that, in my views.

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          I think gp is referring to the fact that there is soooo much in the Bible that defies science that is taken as truth.