When I tried it in the past, I kinda didn’t take it seriously because everything was confined to its instance, but now, there’s full-featured global search and proper federation everywhere? Wow, I thought I heard there were some technical obstacles making it very unlikely, but now it’s just there and works great! I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really? I’m not sure how I didn’t notice this sooner. Was it really there for so long? With flairs showing original instance where video comes from and everything?
I asked ChatGPT
Why do people bring this up every fucking time?
Because they know it’s not accurate and explicitly mention it so you know where this information comes from.
Then why post it at all?
Why post anything? Because they wanted to, the same way you posted something that you felt was worth adding. For me it wasn’t adding anything. Nonetheless I answer you. Because I wanted to.
Buddy, it’s nap time. Catch you in a couple hours when you’re feeling better.
A nap does sound good.
It makes idiots whine
“I used chatgpt”
Honest answer? It’s easy and it won’t judge you for asking stupid questions.
Edit - people are replying as if I said I do this. I’m sorry for the confusion. I don’t. This is why I see other people do it. When it comes to the general population, most people don’t care, they just want easy.
Search engines and Wikipedia don’t judge you for asking stupid questions either.
Almost all content has been hyper-optimized to rank well on Google, not to provide good answers for humans
You’re right, but they take actual thought and effort. People who use chat gpt don’t wanna do that.
No it’ll just hallucinate shit that’ll make you look dumb when you go and state it as fact.
Yep, agree. That’s why I don’t personally use it.
Because people are dumber than chatgpt.
It also proves we don’t have a 50/50 split in intelligence. We need to look at the mean, then we’ll see most people are just plain fucking dumb
Also, lazier. I’m more likely to stick with information from the first 1-3 search results I decided to click, while AI will parse and summarize dozens in fraction of time I spend reading just one.
I asked Gemini, and my browser crashed, so, idk, man I guess it’s knowledge too powerful for human minds to contain.
I think it’s because it causes all of Lemmy to have a collective ragegasm. It’s kind of funny in a trollish way. I support OP in this endeavour.
Even the small local AI niche hates ChatGPT, heh.
This is the golden age of misinformation and you are bitching about citations?
I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really?
How would you phrase this differently?
“It looks like this feature was added 5 years ago.”
If asking for confirmation, just ask for confirmation.
So, your solution is for the user to provide less information and then respond to people to inform them if they used chatgpt if asked?
It just seems like much less reps are used if they say they used ChatGPT.
Additionally, if they don’t say it and no one asks, in the future people might look for a source, at least this way there is a warning there might be misinformation.
I know what your going to say next, they should research the thing themselves independently of ChatGPT, but honestly, they probably don’t care/have the time to look up released notes over the past few years.
Why would anyone ask where they got the info if it is accurate?
The point Is that it might not be accurate. It’s like saying, “a friend told me…”
It lets the reader know that the information being shared was presented as truthful, but wasn’t verified by the commenter themselves.
Apparently the feature was added 5 years ago.
So, your solution is for the user to provide less information and then respond to people to inform them if they used chatgpt if asked?
It just seems like much less reps are used if they say they used ChatGPT.
Additionally, if they don’t say it and no one asks, in the future people might look for a source, at least this way there is a warning there might be misinformation.
I know what your going to say next, they should research the thing themselves independently of ChatGPT, but honestly, they probably don’t care/have the time to look up released notes over the past few years.
My partner describes her bowel movements to me when she returns from her daily ablutions.
what do you mean? it’s like being angry that people bring up I googled something
Googling at least until fairly recently meant „I consulted an index of Internet”. It is a means to get to the bit of information.
Asking ChatGPT is like asking a well-behaved parrot in the library and believing every word it says instead of reading the actual book the librarian would point you towards.
Well now it’s as if half of the books in the library are written by the parrot. The librarian doesn’t know the difference, and keeps trying to make you speak with the parrot anyway.
I use it instead of search most of the time nowadays. Why? Because it does proceed to google it for me, parse search results, read the pages behind those links, summarize everything from there, present it to me in short condensed form and also provide the links where it got the info from. This feature been here for a while.
And it still gets shit wrong.
It’s all good, Lemmy users are strongly anti-ai and are genuinely learning right now that chatgpt, mistral, perplexity etc can search the web
Let’s just keep adding more and more layers like a game of telephone!
What do you mean?
Go ask chatGPT
We aren’t any a. I. We just ain’t lemmings.
I use a I as an inspiration. That’s all it is. A fancy fucking writing prompt.
You use AI for writing prompts? That’s pretty cool, a lot of people use AI for writing prompts, a lot of writers say it’s great for getting rid of writers block
google: I checked the listing of news sites to find information about a world event directly from professionals who double check their sources
chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations
I mean a moron could find the wrong information from google and your hairstylist could get lucky and be right, but odds are one source provides the opportunity for reliable results and the other is random and has a massive shit ton of downsides.
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John Smith wrote at 12:28 on Friday
Peertube is actually developed by a communist who turned my daughter gay. Boycott!!!
What if your hairstylist is on the Fediverse, avoids mainstream social media, and spends a lot of their spare time reading scientific papers?
Lots of legitimate concerns and issues with AI, but if you’re going to criticize someone saying they used it you should at least understand how it works so your criticism is applicable.
It is useful. Chatgpt performs web searches, then summarizes the results in a way customized to what you asked it. It skips the step where you have to sift through a bunch of results and determine “is this what I was looking for?” and “how does this apply to my specific context?”
Of course it can and does still get things wrong. It’s crazy to market it as a new electronic god. But it’s not random, and it’s right the majority of the time.
It might be wrong more often than you think
IS wrong
Ftfy
Besides the other commenter highlighting the specific nature of the linked study, I will say I’m generally doing technical queries where if the answer is wrong, it’s apparent because the AI suggestion doesn’t work. Think “how do I change this setting” or “what’s wrong with the syntax in this line of code”. If I try the AI’s advice and it doesn’t work, then I ask again or try something else.
I would be more concerned about subjects where I don’t have any domain knowledge whatsoever, and not working on a specific application of knowledge, because then it could be a long while before I realize the response was wrong.
In this study they asked to replicate 1:1 headline publisher and date. So for example if AI rephrased headline as something synonymous it would be considered at least partially incorrect. Summarization doesn’t require accurate citation, so it needs a separate study.
OK but google (or ask your AI?) about AI accuracy. This isn’t the only source saying theres a problem with the answers.
It skips the step where you have to sift through a bunch of results and determine “is this what I was looking for?” and “how does this apply to my specific context?”
Right: it skips the part where human intelligence and critical thinking is applied. Do you not understand how that’s a fucking problem‽
Could you try to understand what I’m saying instead of jumping down my throat?
If I want to turn off a certain type of notification in a program I’m using, I don’t need to sift through three forum threads to learn how to do that. I’m fine taking the AI route and don’t think I’ve lost my humanity.
chatGPT: I asked my hairstylist their uninformed opinion on a world event based on overheard conversations
LLM’s have been able to search the web for a few years now
The main one outside of ChatGPT is https://www.perplexity.ai/
You can also look at hosting your version with Local LLM’s:
Looking up a list of resources that you then evaluate yourself is very categorically different from getting an “answer” from a bot.
I have to say I think Peertube itself is good, but the content still isn’t there yet. Of course we all know that’s because there isn’t cash to be made on Peertube
Counter point: I dont want to watch content that has a monetary incentive behind it.
Why exactly do you think people create content for you to consume in the first place?
Sharing knowledge. Lots of people are not primarily motivated by greed.
That’s great to aspire for but there’s still an almost total lack of content in many genres I enjoy on YouTube. I don’t even think PeerTube has progressed as far as the Lemmy community in terms of content availability. Admittedly this is probably because text and image content is much easier to create, but as a user I don’t find much reason to spend time there yet.
So if you don’t want a monetized model, there is still a need to have another solution to the lack of content, and I haven’t seen one yet.
What kinda stuff do you like on youtube?
https://lemmy.wtf/post/15810205
(thanks again to @[email protected] for maintaining this awesome list)
Not the person you’re asking, but I mostly watch craft stuff, particularly 1:12 scale dollhouse miniatures and sewing. The most recent video I could find that was even remotely relevant is several months old and about a different kind of miniature.
Best you can do is ask some of these content creators to also post their videos to PeerTube.
PeerTube has built-in syncing of YouTube channels, so it’s fairly easy once it’s set up.
What content have you produced for free? Do you consider yourself greedy when you cash your work paychecks?
I know first hand that making content is a lot of work
I’ve made and shared plenty of 3d models for the 3D printing community. People can certainly make it a job, and that’s perfectly reasonable. But, I will never be interested in a community of for-profit model makers. If their goal is to make money off me, it’s not a community, I’m just a customer. The point of the community is to learn and share information, to help people and be helped in return. If that time is ‘work’ for you, don’t do it. Or make content and sell it on YouTube, do what you want, I’m just not interested in it.
of course… but plenty are. When you see kids at school saying they want to be content creators as a job you know it is only going to get worse. I never said it was right or wrong but it is exactly what it is for a large percentage of people. Also can’t get past the fact that like googling something, watching a video on youtube is literally in peoples vocabulary
I don’t want to watch the people who aspire to do it as a job. They saw some influences online who are profit driven and think they can get similarly rich. Many see it as an easy job (it’s not).
I want to watch people motivated by their thirst for creativity and sharing knowledge, and if money comes their way they will see it as secondary. I would prefer them to do something else as a job.
Wanting to get paid for your work, so that you can keep making stuff, is in fact not the same thing as greed. We have this assumption that everything on the Web should be free, or at least helped along by donations, but it’s not sustainable.
Should teachers stop making money too?
Of course not but some may do free workshops just because they feel it may help their community.
I don’t work for free either but if my neighbor needs a new alternator or cabinet door fixed I will help/ show them how to fix it.
Most creators just ask voluntary donations for very few exclusive or temporary exclusivity
Makes sense
Plenty of people uploaded stuff to youtube for years before it started giving them any money
Humans love sharing new things with each other, its part of our social structure and how we ensure our own survival. Its as natural as hunger or thirst.
Same, and it’s weird to me that so many people now believe that they deserve to be paid for participating in their hobbies.
Got me thinking about how YouTubers get money. According to a quick web search, YT pays $0.01 to $0.03 per view. So if you release 10 videos a month, you made $0.10 per viewer. But Patreon memberships are typically around $5.00 a month, equivalent to $0.50 per view in the same scenario. Of course Patreon will take a cut, but it is still a lot more money.
So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought. In this case, the only advantage of YT over PT is discovery, i.e. the number of viewers likely to find your videos in the first place (but there’s also more competition on YT, so…)
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Some good points I hadn’t considered!
So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought.
I don’t think this is realistic, most people will not open their wallets, especially since they can’t just go around paying a monthly subscription to everyone they watch. Even if their Patreon earnings were higher, I doubt their YouTube earnings would be insignificant.
Dead Meat starts at $1 per month not $5, they have 23,300 paid members. But their YouTube looks like it gets millions of views per month (you don’t only get views on new videos like you suggested, but old videos can get lots of views too as you build up a back catalog). And this is a channel that I found by doing a Google search for most successful YouTube Patreons.
Wow their YouTube has 2.97 billion views
I think 1 cent per view is on the high end for YouTube
Some instances have different ways of making money. TILVids for example shares money from donations with the creators. Theres also support buttons that help creators out. As well as ads on some instances as themes. Most are just nonprofits trying to do good in the world.
Its not as popular for the same reason your on fediverse, the interface allows anyone without ads to see your videos. The insentive does not always need to be $$, it most cases, its community building.
Also the iOS app is pure shit. Can’t even filter by language.
If ChatGPT said it was added five years ago, that means it was added anywhere between 13.8 billions years ago and never.
That made me exhale. But using the age of the universe as lower bound is already giving chatgpt too much credit
Chatgpt is wrong BTW. But yeah its been there for a long time.
Why the fuck do people ask ChatGPT for shit like this? ChatGPT doesn’t know facts. It’s a magic 8-ball with more words.
Asking chatgpt can be super useful to get info. I just don’t understand why people don’t try to verify what it says before just re-posting like fact.
For basic fact checking like this, it’s basically useless. You’d have to go look it up to verify anyway, so it’s just an extra step. There’s use cases for it, but this isn’t it
If you are just going to verify the info, why not just find out yourself and save yourself some time?
It depends on what info you’re trying to find.
I was recently trying to figure out the name of a particular uncommon type of pipe fitting. I could describe what it looked like, but had no idea what it was called. I described it to chatgpt, which gave me a name, which I could then search for with a normal search engine to confirm that the name was correct. Sure enough, search results took me to plumbing supply companies selling it, with pictures that matched what I described.
But, asking it when a particular feature got added to a piece of software? There’s no additional information one would get from the answer to help them confirm that the answer is correct.
ETA: The above strategy has also failed me many times, though, where chatgpt gives me information that follow-up searches only confirmed that chatgpt hallucinated the answer. Just wanted to say that to reinforce that you have to assume it’s hallucinating until you get independent confirmation.
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Sometimes it’s nice to know where you even start, then verify from there.
The only thing it’s useful at is shit that isn’t necessary.
We had a P&Z member at the city I work at get butthurt because we corrected him at a meeting, so the city manager asked me to write an apology letter to him.
That was the one time I loved ChatGPT. It was bullshit that didn’t need to happen that I didn’t care about and achieved nothing, so I let the fucking bot write it.
https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/releases/tag/v2.3.0
ChatGPT is correct? The irony of people confidently asserting that ChatGPT is wrong, while being wrong, seems to be lost on the crowd here. Kinda makes you understand why ChatGPT is often so confident even when wrong.
I asked chat gpt
Lol
I asked ChatGPT and it thinks OP made a humorous comment
The spirit is there
“I asked ChatGPT” and my post got 180 replies 🔥
We used to post pictures of beans on Lemmy and get five hundred replies
We need the slapping batman meme when Robin says “I asked ChatGPT”
Doing the Lord’s work!
I try!
I must be doing something wrong or using a shit instance cause I can’t find one at all but everytime I go to peertube (and I"m not searching just locally) I see like 3 videos get posted a day, most of which are videos about Lies of P or car videos. LIke there’s no content.
so…what am I doing wrong?
Either poorly-federated instance, or you look in the wrong place? Here’s a good one: https://peertube.wtf/videos/browse?live=false
thank you! yeah I was using peertube.tv and thinking “this can’t be it” other than that I tried Dalek Zone and got frustrated with finding anything on that. This is much better thanks.
Same. Can’t find shit to watch. Can’t figure out how to add any instances, either. The “add an instance” button appears to be missing in the app or I’m just retarded and doing it wrong.
You asked ChatGPT and thought it gave you a correct answer…? 🤣
For real though, Peertube is awesome now. Live streaming works a treat, so many plugins and add ons that make it great. Not to mention it now has its own app which is great.
It did give the right answer…
How are PeerTube instances funded? I’d imagine that the cost of running an instance is significantly higher than a Lemmy instance.
Depends on the instance and activity levels. I run a very small one on my own, and it costs ~$10 each month for server rental and b2 storage.
If I was running it on a broader scale, it would start to add up, but I mostly wanted to help with federation and reliability, and that’s fairly inexpensive.
Itd be nice if there was a way for ppl to rent their own channels off an instance rather than a whole instance, since that instance gets expensive hosting it by yourself, built in way like a 1$ a month a channel could cover hosting costs maybe
GrayJay also supports adding PeerTube instances:
https://pluginhost.grayjay.app/peertube?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeertube.futo.org
Not my experience, still hard to me to find good quality and interesting contents on it. A problem i don’t have on pixelfed, so it’s not about the lack of algorithm
Yeah, it’s not really all that deep in content yet.
Looks promising though
Yeah I finally made an account and there is more than enough here to satisfy my mealtime watching needs. Still not a lot of content when compared to the mainstream platforms, but that reminds me of all the fediverse offerings a few years ago.
I feel like it’s only a matter of time before there’s enough on peertubes to keep me off the mainstreams almost entirely.
Any interesting video recommendations?
I think some urbanism/public transit-related channels are in the PeerTube, like RMTransit for example.
RMTransit will stop making videos though, he and NJB talked on the Urbanist Agenda podcast about it.
Take a look sometime at the top videos of [email protected] or https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos to see some great videos! Creators all over the fediverse.
One of my favorite videos on fedi: https://videos.elenarossini.com/videos/watch/2909e4a0-6424-4a74-a936-d15812268a3c
I myself host a peertube instance and its pretty easy to use.
My experience hasn’t been as smooth. The global search seems dependent on instances, some are better than others. And playback across instances is hit or miss.
With that said, usage entirely local to the instance is flawless and speedy, which is nice.
I don’t even remember a time when PeerTube wasn’t federated. For as long as I’ve been using it, that’s been kind of the point.
