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    You clearly don’t read congress.gov or watch CSPAN. First, they have no power due to minority. Secondly, they cannot filibuster a reconciliation bill. All they can do is debate provisions and propose amendments. That’s it.

    They debated every provision, line-by-line, over four 24+ hour oversight committee hearings. Then Schumer forced the Republicans to read the entire reconciliation aloud over 12 hours. Then they held a record 23-hour amendment “vote-a-rama” to try to limit the provisions.

    This is how it went: https://files.catbox.moe/1lwoem.mp4

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      Weird, I seem to recall the senate parliamentarian pumping the brakes on much of the Dem agenda before reconciliation votes in Biden’s term. Just couldn’t pass 85% of his promised agenda because of that darn parliamentarian and “the rules.” All we heard from Dems then was how there was nothing they could do to counter the revered senate parliamentarian.

      Last week, there were whispers about the parliamentarian pushing back on some of the massively problematic portions of this bill, and then whoosh, it was gone. Dems didn’t utter a word further. Media completely silent on the matter. What happened? Millionaire senators all want their tax cuts too huh?

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        That happened with this bill as well. The Senate Parliamentarian is a non-partisan position, who is charged with the responsibility of verifying the legality of provisions.

        Elizabeth Macdonough, the Senate Parliamentarian since 2012, declared the Republican’s provision to exempt Alaska and Hawaii from the Medicare and SNAP cuts was invalid due to the Byrd rule, for example. Murkowski voted for the bill anyway, because she cares more about pleasing Big Oil than her constituents.

        https://time.com/7296762/big-beautiful-bill-byrd-rule/

        The media wasn’t silent. It was overridden by Trump’s Accusations Auschwitz. You need to watch CSPAN if you want to know what’s happening in the government.

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        Republicans also just ignored the parliamentarian when the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was passed during Donald’s first term.

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      I am aware of their lack of majority and inability to filibuster a reconciliation bill. While these actions seem useful, it is merely born of desperation. Regardless, these are at least steps that can be taken to minimize the massive oncoming harm.

      There is a reason behind this lack of majority though: they’ve failed to energize voters, they’ve let the cult of personality Trump win over reason. They’ve lost seats because of a lack of attention, and complacency. If they hadn’t, we’d be in a very different situation right now.

      The few nominees that had a chance to keep Democrats in control of vital offices, were either sidelined or actively fought against, Zohran Kwame Mamdani is a recent example of a candidate for a Mayoral position that the DNC pit a controversial sex pest Andrew Cuomo against…Even dusting off Bill Clinton to back Andrew, but at least Zohran is still in the running, ATM. I can only hope young candidates like him can help shift the political landscape for the better in the future. If America can endure, at least.

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        The candidates you want aren’t backed by donors. We need to vote for the progressives that often run in primaries. Take it from a political analyst if you don’t believe me.

        Stop rewarding the people who can afford to reach you in your living room. Research the candidates on your primary ballots and vote in every election.

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          Oh trust me, I know the reality of what is going on. This is why I vote in every election: local, state, and national because that is what really matters. Change can only happen if we participate in all the elections possible, which I have certainly done regardless of the outcome. As apathy and losing hope is going to let those corporate and ultra wealthy donor backed candidates win.

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        There is a reason behind this lack of majority though: they’ve failed to energize voters

        Also, Dems could have abused the reconciliation process in order to pass legislation too, but didn’t.

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      First, they have no power due to minority.

      They can filibuster. They could have forced a shutdown. They can abuse reconciliation. They can bully their opponents when they have power. They Congress and the presidency for two years and all they did was sit buy while people got poorer and angrier.

      It’s time to stop making excuses. I want to see a Dem whose willing to talk for two days and piss their pants in order to stop fascism.