Two other Democrats have now joined Kirsten Gillibrand in falsely accusing the Muslim mayoral candidate for New York City of supporting calls for violence against Jews.
EDITED - (this changed a bit while I replied but I don’t like to delete things as I find it confusing later but needless thanks for expanding a bit and making it more clear that people did work for change and continue to)
who gave up? As far as the canidate in one primary we went forward but that was the start of a lot of momentum in primaries for progressive candidates. Every time I see something about giving up it feels so disingenuous to those who while working within the system still try to change it.
I was talking, obliquely, about the people on Lemmy pre-election who used “Democrats betrayed Bernie” as a reason to make the argument “politics is pointless, let’s not vote.”
If you’re saying those people don’t represent actual progressive activism (which has, I agree, been making more and more inroads every year as things get progressively worse and worse and their momentum builds), I will agree with you completely.
Honestly im never sure, especially with the internet, how many of those are sincere individuals and how much might be intentional trolls looking to muck things up. I personally do not know people who do not vote democrat because of they all the same fud or such.
I saw people at an anti-Trump protest who were getting up and yelling about how it was largely the Democrats’ fault and it was important not to reward them with our votes. That’s the only person I’ve ever seen in person who thinks this way, yes, but I have seen it a nonzero number of times.
It’s almost all an internet thing, just in general. Every single political person I know in person is more or less either pro-Democrat or pro-Trump, or else wholly anti-US in all respects, the sophisticated leftist viewpoint is almost entirely an internet thing for me.
EDITED - (this changed a bit while I replied but I don’t like to delete things as I find it confusing later but needless thanks for expanding a bit and making it more clear that people did work for change and continue to)
who gave up? As far as the canidate in one primary we went forward but that was the start of a lot of momentum in primaries for progressive candidates. Every time I see something about giving up it feels so disingenuous to those who while working within the system still try to change it.
I was talking, obliquely, about the people on Lemmy pre-election who used “Democrats betrayed Bernie” as a reason to make the argument “politics is pointless, let’s not vote.”
If you’re saying those people don’t represent actual progressive activism (which has, I agree, been making more and more inroads every year as things get progressively worse and worse and their momentum builds), I will agree with you completely.
Honestly im never sure, especially with the internet, how many of those are sincere individuals and how much might be intentional trolls looking to muck things up. I personally do not know people who do not vote democrat because of they all the same fud or such.
I saw people at an anti-Trump protest who were getting up and yelling about how it was largely the Democrats’ fault and it was important not to reward them with our votes. That’s the only person I’ve ever seen in person who thinks this way, yes, but I have seen it a nonzero number of times.
It’s almost all an internet thing, just in general. Every single political person I know in person is more or less either pro-Democrat or pro-Trump, or else wholly anti-US in all respects, the sophisticated leftist viewpoint is almost entirely an internet thing for me.