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      It’s fuckin’ unavoidable. I don’t use any part of it, except for Marketplace, because nothing like it exists. It doesn’t matter if it’s shit, it’s where the stuff is listed for sale.

      As for the rest of it, I just quit. Conversations I used to have on messenger have moved elsewhere.

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        There really needs to be an organized effort from sellers and buyers to identify a solid alternative, which is hard. And post listing about moving off to that platform. A lot of existing ones have their own downsides, and there are just not enough people on them consistently and actively

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      FB itself for a community group, and Messenger for my family group chat 🤷

      The group now has a presence on Discord, but there are still 26 times as many members on FB. In Hungary many people still use FB as their main social network. At most they also use Instagram, but that obviously doesn’t work for closed discussion groups.

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      Fediverse is still mostly Westerner.

      While on Facebook, there are a ton of community from SEA, East Asia, Africa, Middle East, and so on.

      Also, Facebook Lite makes the poorest people in my country to be able to access social media without using too many internet quota.

      The variation of groups is far beyond any social media, even Reddit or any other community site. You can get thousands of variation of Minecraft groups that exactly suits your community needs. Or maybe just a city chicken fried seller community.

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      Young people have Instagram spyware on their phones and old people have Facebook spyware.

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        Forgot WhatsApp there, de facto messaging app in my part of globe, be it young or old…

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          Same here. I wanted to include it too but it is not as quite bad as the other two(at least I hope so because I can’t avoid it). But yeah you never know with these Meta apps.

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            Oh it’s just as bad, believe me. Have restricted its access to only pre-selected photos, disabled running in background but that’s about all I can do. It has to have access to my contacts to be usable, and who knows what they do with that data.

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              Actually, contacts access isn’t strictly necessary! I run it with the permission disabled, and although it complains regularly, it still works. I don’t have any issues with having to remember people’s numbers either since they’re recognisable from the profile pictures and because I talk to the same few people usually

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                I don’t have that kind of memory unfortunately. It seems there is similar limitation mechanism to contacts as there is for pictures on iOS, but picking each individual person I like WA to know from a list of a few hundred people is quite painful.

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                  Ahh that makes sense, with more people involved it’s harder to go by. I use Fossify Contacts, and it has an option to save contacts but to make them invisible to other apps. Perhaps that might help you somehow, I’m not sure

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      That brings up a good point though. Based on just the screenshot here, it seems like the user wont have a choice of what gets uploaded. People keep some pretty raunchy photos on their phone sometimes. Even kids might have some questionable photos. This is just asking for trouble.

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        How long will it take for a sfw kid picture with pink cloths or a splash of red to be misinterpreted, generated and tied to that user? There was already a time on youtube when blood red cloths were getting people demonetized for gore.

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    If you’re still on Facebook, you’re probably not aware of what this means or why it’s a bad thing.

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    No telling what else they do with your pictures once they’re on Meta’s servers. Literal spyware (as if it hasn’t already been for a long time).

    Imagine having your nudes accidentally ghiblified, with the originals stored indefinitely on Meta’s servers.

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      The distressing thing for me is knowing that a lot of my friends (and exes) are exactly the sort of people that’ll just absent-mindedly click OK without reading it and share every single photo they’ve ever taken of me; photos which Facebook’s facial recognition will easily tag.

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      God that’s ridiculous… the image hash depends on the image not having changed at all from the one uploaded by the user. If they’re screenshotted and cropped, or sent via a messaging platform that compresses them, they’ll be visually similar enough to not matter, and different enough to have a different hash. So, Zuck gets a free peek at your your nudes, and all you get is a false sense of security.

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        Yes and no, there are specific image hashing algorithms that attempt to add a likeness score.

        These are already used with in the cloud to combat CSAM

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    don’t have Facebook on your phone?

    better yet, don’t have Facebook?

    zero sympathy for anyone caught in this, you’ve all been warned for at least a decade on what supporting Facebook means, why get upset about this now?

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      My mom has facebook and also has my photos.

      Unless we can get EVERYONE to respect each others’ privacy, arsoning meta ceo until next one gets scared is the only option.

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        I always wonder why people like him are still casually strolling around while being the personified evil for 20+ years. It sure is evidence that Karma doesn’t exist.

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      I don’t have many pictures of myself on my own phone. Most pictures of me are on the phones of the people who took them.

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      The LAST thing I’d do with my mobile phone is install Facebook or Instagram. What a nightmare.

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        Unless you run a custom ROM, like LineageOS or GrapheneOS, you most probably have some Meta apps installed at system level.

        This is Meta Services, as a system app which can only be disabled, on my work Samsung.

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        I still use Facebook (many friends and relatives still there) but only through the web browser. Never ever install an app if you can help it. FB has tried to make the web version worse and worse in the mobile browser, though, to try to force people to use the app. Comment input boxes got janky and now chat is impossible unless you check “desktop site”. These things worked fine a couple years ago.

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      Problem is if you have family on other countries most use WhatsApp for everything, it’s hard for some to not have any Meta app.

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    Well look on the bright side. AI is about to become really good at drawing penises under fat bellies.

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    Facebook works perfectly fine in browser, there’s literally no need for that shit app.

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    I bet a lot of people will slow because they will not read it or not really understand what they are accepting. Some will even share the new AI creating as something nice while they are giving up their private photos to Meta