Lemmy is libbed the fuck up dude. Genuinely starting to think it’s a lost cause here.
The fact that someone can post this without at all reflecting on the fact that democrats have been in power for 12 of the last 16 years and the average american is worse off than they’ve ever been.
And no I don’t think democrats are as bad as republicans.
I’m having a hard time believing you’re coming at this discussion in good faith. But by all means explain why you think I’m a fascist.
lol
You’d rather dismiss everything I’m saying under the pretense of me being an undercover fascist then rethink your world view.
Good for you.
They have literally been actively doing this over the course of the genocide.
You’re literally making fun of people for actually paying attention to whats happening.
Fucking libs man I swear.
I’m by no means an apple fan boy (I only have an air) but the apple m processors are getting faster every gen. My m1 air is fast, has a nice design, great battery life, nice screen, etc. idk what else I would want in a laptop. Obviously not a cheap but it should last me a lot longer than whatever pc I would have gotten for half the price.
I don’t follow the laptop industry closely though so maybe I’m being ripped off without realizing it?
Why are people on this website so obsessed with defending the democratic party. I don’t understand what they are trying to accomplish.
I appreciate the level headed take.
Because we can’t save Gaza immediately
What do you mean by this? That the president can’t or that voters can’t because their choice is voting genocide or worse genocide?
The dems have been taught a lesson
Based on the response of the media, and elected democrats, no they haven’t lol. They’re blaming the left.
but their conscious is clear, somehow
I think this is reductive and does not acknowledge why many people did not vote democrat.
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I disagree with your assessment but appreciate your civility, as well as the fact that you acknowledge how obsessed people are with blaming undecided voters.
The stats I’ve seen show that Gaza was actually a significant issue in some swing states and absolutely could have improved Harris’ chance at victory.
not unless Americans are getting killed
Many Americans have family members who are being killed in Gaza. Not to mention the risk of American troops being deployed increases as Israel becomes more and more belligerent.
Many Americans are also horrified at the fact that their tax dollars are being used to commit a genocide.
Nope, we’re here. Stop blaming voters and blame the democratic party please and thank you.
The stubbornness of liberals is honestly impressive.
Imagine being this confidently wrong.
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I agree with you except for the blaming Trump voters part. I’m not going to pretend I think anyone who voted for Trump was informed or made a good decision, but I have some understanding of how they got to that decision.
Libs blaming voters are almost certainly: young, college educated, and privileged. I too am all those things, but I’ve tried to expose myself to the experiences of people who are much different than me. In doing so I’ve learned how their learned experiences inform their politics, and how someone like Harris (and the democratic party in general) did absolutely nothing to appeal to them.
Trump acknowledged their suffering and gave them a scapegoat to blame. Harris did not counter that narrative, she did not acknowledge their suffering, and she did not offer them anything that might improve their lives. All she had to offer was the idea that Trump was a fascist. She was right obviously, but Trump being a fascist is an abstract concept to understand, “immigrants are making your life worse” is very easy to digest.
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And liberals really hate to hear that the democrats ran a garbage campaign. Shit goes both ways my dude. Expand your viewpoint and try to consider why someone would be unable to vote for Harris instead of calling them idiots.
Liberals are so fucking obnoxious.
“How dare you vote your conscience”
Seriously go fuck yourselves if you think this. I’ve tried to reason with these people but they aren’t willing to put themselves in the shoes of someone who couldn’t stomach voting for Harris. Grow the fuck up, expand your viewpoint, and stop being a condescending prick on the internet, I fucking beg you.
If you’re on the internet insulting anyone who didn’t vote for Harris, you are the reason we’re in this situation. You and your ilk are the reason the democrats can run a right wing campaign and then blame leftists when they (predictably) lose. It’s honestly fucking pathetic.
Sorry I’m just getting so fucking tired of these people.
I don’t think he actually has as much power as people are implying. I think the reason he was able to influence this election was because most undecided voters didn’t like either candidate very much, and so having someone like Joe Rogan sit down with Trump and humanize him was something that probably had a noticeable effect.
I think that if Harris had actually run a campaign that actually addressed the needs of the average person she would’ve won easily and we’d be laughing at the fact that Trump was so desperate for votes he went on Joe Rogan.
Democrats also do this?