• theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Inb4, the tankies come crawling from the woodwork to claim how this will be bad for the rest of the world, and we should let Russia conquer Ukraine in the name of “peace.”

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      It sure is strange how they’ll support Russia, despite being a crony capitalist state, on account of the Soviet union calling itself communist and Russia being a post-Soviet successor state, but not Ukraine, even though that’s also a post-Soviet state.

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        If they were using reason, they wouldn’t be fucking tankies to start with.

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        Tankies are just fascists who like the color red.

        When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called “the People’s Stick”.

        -M. Bakunin

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        China is also a crony capitalist state - they don’t exactly distribute the wealth obtained from leasing public land and operating businesses.

        They and Russia share a goal - destabilizing the west, especially the US, to gain geopolitical importance and to stifle calls for democracy and human rights.

        Ukraine isn’t on their team there.

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        “Bro simply give your land to the invaders, bro, that ends it. Surely this invasion is a one-off, just like Crimea and Georgia and so on.”

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        8 months ago

        So you managed to post the propaganda with high visibility, under the guise of being against it. Well done!

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            So why did you feel the need to show a post that parrot Russian propaganda?
            Are you not aware that parroting it, means you are helping spreading it?

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              Are you dense? It merely shows what the poster is talking about. How is it that everyone else understood it?

              You are aware that parroting it, means you are helping spreading it.

              If you mean by pointing out how stupid of an opinion it is and how it’s clearly propaganda, then yea.

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                Problem is you don’t do any pointing out of any arguments, you just state it’s stupid, which is not an argument.
                And then you post the entire propaganda argument. How stupid are you, that you can’t see that’s stupid. Unless you actually want to spread it?
                I’m sorry to call you stupid, but you started it.

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                  Idk what you want from me. If it bothers you that much downvote and move on, you know, like an adult would. Again, you’re the only one who has an issue with something that’s clearly a non-issue, lol. Too much time on your hands, perhaps?

                  Ironically, now you’re the one derailing the conversation. Lol

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      Inb4, the tankies

      But why? Why inb4?
      This entire post is now derailed to be about tankies and nothing about the issue, which is great news for Ukraine and Europe, and for USA too.

      Seems to me your post is just about the perfect tankie/Russian Propaganda post to derail the debate. Maybe you think it’s clever IDK? But IMO it’s idiotic noise that doesn’t add anything.

      • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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        If you took a look at my post history it would actually say the opposite, but nice try, though. You could’ve started your own comment thread if it was such an issue for you.

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    8 months ago

    Wait, so Ukraine finally gets some help and TikTok is banned?

    I mean . . . sure. Yes. Yeah.

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        China’s propaganda strategy is more of a concern than privacy (the motivation is Bejing’s control/amplification/censorship of content, not data gathering)

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          Yes I know, it definitely should be curbed. However, better privacy laws could still be written to disallow that type of manipulative content.

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            one doesn’t have much to do with the other - shadowbanning clips mentioning taiwan, while amplifying clips that divide and inflame Americans, can be done without any private user data.

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              Yeah that is true, and other platforms do the same things as well. It should really be fixed as the systemic issue that it is. Banning specifically tiktok means that all its users are just going to flock to another app that will do the same thing and nothing will change. There are many tiktok clones from ‘enemy states’ and allies alike that do it. I guess there isn’t a really good way to define what is and isn’t an intent to divide though.

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                  There are so many on the play store that are from all over according to their developer info. Some from less scrupulous parts of the world than others. Likee and Bigo are based out of Singapore and do much of the same things tiktok does, but even more poorly moderated.

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    Oh shit y’all guys actually banning TikTok over there good 4 u

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    8 months ago

    Good job Biden… screw Israel but apparently we need to grease the Republican-led Congress with Palestinian blood to get them to stop cuckolding Putin for a second.

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    Very interested to finally see ByteDance’s rebuttal. I don’t expect them to take the ban lying down. A lawsuit will likely be filed, a court battle will be had, and maybe a wily American billionaire who’s easily controllable by Chinese interests is willing to be a useful idiot for a few years.